Re: BMP Best management practices
[Re: rpmartin]
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Plenty of Luddites pretending to be professionals,RP.
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Re: BMP Best management practices
[Re: rpmartin]
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One thing that has not gotten brought up in this conversation (term loosely used) is how much money will it cost if trapping was not around . Livestock predation, business in lost revenue, license fees and added employees to the WWS, state run ,or county programs etc.,etc,etc, so on and so forth. More regulation is not the answer imo.
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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Steeltraps, just keep doing what you're doing and let this guy chase his tail. The ranchers and sportsman who's interests you protect are what matters. Thanks. I think Rpmartin”s proplem is where he live and other places are pushing BMP. He believes that we. Can get somewhere by accepting a = run by the government and anti”s agenda will help him keep being able to trap fur Thats his right and opinion. I hope fur comes back for you guys that trap it. I homestly do!!! But I have never trapped for fur. Only bounty So why do some want to push a BMP agenda on me? It just not going to help with the antis. I feel strongly about the ADC guy right NOT being hindered by BMP practices.
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Re: BMP Best management practices
[Re: rpmartin]
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BMP's are improvements in tools and methods-the polar opposite to hindrances. Improvements in traps and methods have been initiated by professional trappers-not government. Anyone who has been around for a while in the trapping game cannot argue that the new tools and methods we use today are a vast improvement over what was available 60 years ago.
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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One thing that has not gotten brought up in this conversation (term loosely used) is how much money will it cost if trapping was not around . Livestock predation, business in lost revenue, license fees and added employees to the WWS, state run ,or county programs etc.,etc,etc, so on and so forth. More regulation is not the answer imo.
100% agree. BMP takes tools away from those that need them. Ranchers and high fences owner keep me busy working. So why sould we not be allowed to use the tools WE need own Large tracks of private land. BECAUSE some want BMP ?? As I said. Giving in to BMP is not good for us. The anti’s will just keep taking.
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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BMP's are improvements in tools and methods-the polar opposite to hindrances. Improvements in traps and methods have been initiated by professional trappers-not government. I won't disagree with your statement. It's different here in the states. California was down to only cage traps and yet they pretty much took those away as well. They won't stop here until it's all gone. Just wait until fellow trappers start to tell you that "cable restraints" are a good thing. Try that in Canada and you'd go off the rails. It's tough here Robert. I'd wager we have more timberwolves per square mile than Ontario and still we most likely won't get to manage them this year.
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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SO. Your solution is to bow down and except more government? I dont guess you dont get the fact that i am a guy that want back down?? I want quit. Ihave been trapping coyotes for 32 years and will keep trapping a helping rancher from now own. I dont care or worry myself with the thoughts of others like you. I do my job. I kill coyotes. And i will always do that. But i quess since i am not 100% as compassionate as you i am wrong. O well. Please tell us you are a member of the national and the states you trap in trapping organizations.
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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How about you Wilbur? You up to date on all your state and national trappers associations?
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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Get with the program Savell !! It's Best MANAGEMENT Practices............not best MASSAGE Parlors
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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... sorry mr White... I can’t keep up with all the hippie stuff these days... gender inclusion and racial fusion or what have you lol
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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How about you Wilbur? You up to date on all your state and national trappers associations? .. yes but I’m going to start my own... they think they’re the Oklahoma trappers association this spring.... that’s a long haul up to Childress lol .. calling it the “Deep East Tx Trappers and Bobcat Slappers Association “ if they try to over regulate trapping we’ll storm the Capitol
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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BMP's are improvements in tools and methods-the polar opposite to hindrances. Improvements in traps and methods have been initiated by professional trappers-not government. I won't disagree with your statement. It's different here in the states. California was down to only cage traps and yet they pretty much took those away as well. They won't stop here until it's all gone. Just wait until fellow trappers start to tell you that "cable restraints" are a good thing. Try that in Canada and you'd go off the rails. It's tough here Robert. I'd wager we have more timberwolves per square mile than Ontario and still we most likely won't get to manage them this year. As professional trappers,you guys and your trapping organizations really have a long way to go. Fortunately here we and our trapping organization have a very good working relationship and general support of the government. We were able to to do field testing of cable restraints to bring them into use in southern Ontario-a great tool for those who want to snare in settled areas. And no restrictions on lethal snaring in the rest of the province where there is no issue with domestics. Professionalism is key to working with governments and to get the support of the general public.
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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Re: BMP Best management practices
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