Re: Quail
[Re: RonnieC]
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I started to last summer/fall. Birds were too stupid to lay! Actually the dozen birds laid a total of about 10 eggs over the period of a week or two.
Tasty birds, though.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Quail
[Re: RonnieC]
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I've looked into it. It seems you can buy a chick for the same price as an egg. I'd probly end up with pets and wouldn't want to kill them. I'd like to get a population going but they don't seem to go wild very easily. Too many predator birds.
Life ain't supposed to be easy.
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Re: Quail
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There are many on here with much more experience than I. I had jumbo brown couterix for a few years. Great egg layers, easy to identify male from female. If you want only eggs, separate the sexes at about 5 weeks and butcher the males. Around 6 weeks, the aggressive ones will show their stripes, cull them. If you are breeding them, one male for every 5 or 6 females is plenty. Even at this ratio, they will pluck the hens bald.
I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. O Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
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Re: Quail
[Re: RonnieC]
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04/03/21 10:02 PM
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The O.P. reffered to A&M quail and I mentioned coturnix. Neither of those can be seriously equated to anything that could be expected to survive as a wild, self sustained population.
I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. O Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
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Re: Quail
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The O.P. reffered to A&M quail and I mentioned coturnix. Neither of those can be seriously equated to anything that could be expected to survive as a wild, self sustained population.
A&M quail are just a variety of coturnix quail. The species name is Coturnix coturnix. With the colors, modifiers and patterning genes you can produce about 60 different color looking coturnix. Keith
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Re: Quail
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The O.P. reffered to A&M quail and I mentioned coturnix. Neither of those can be seriously equated to anything that could be expected to survive as a wild, self sustained population.
A&M quail are just a variety of coturnix quail. The species name is Coturnix coturnix. With the colors, modifiers and patterning genes you can produce about 60 different looking coturnix. Keith Keith are those the ones that have a very unique call? I believe that’s what the managers wife hatched. A lot different sounding than a Bobwhite for sure.
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Re: Quail
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The O.P. reffered to A&M quail and I mentioned coturnix. Neither of those can be seriously equated to anything that could be expected to survive as a wild, self sustained population.
A&M quail are just a variety of coturnix quail. The species name is Coturnix coturnix. With the colors, modifiers and patterning genes you can produce about 60 different looking coturnix. Keith I understand that. At least the brown are easy to distinguish between sexes. Those A&M are all white unless I am mistaken, and I am unwilling to spend the time to observe them to distinguish which are the aggressive jerks.
I'm just a soul whose intentions are good. O Lord please don't let me be misunderstood.
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Re: Quail
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Yeah...that’s about a good explanation of the sound as I could imagine. Definitely wasn’t “native” to South Georgia sounds, lol. I have a few people a year, who hear the coturnix when they come out, who think I have a barn full of raccoons. To me coturnix don't sound like raccoons at all. Keith
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Re: Quail
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I suppose that one could mistake the racket coturnix roo's for coons, but they don't sound off until the coons have gone to bed for the day.
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Re: Quail
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Coturnix are very easy to vent sex once they are mature. The males have a foam ball on the tail side of the vent. The foam looks like shaving cream and feeds the sperm in the female for up to 2 weeks after mating. The foam expresses easy, with light pressure and makes a fair sized bulge.
Adult females have a very wide vent, once they start laying. If the female has been bred, she will have a small amount of foam, laying flat, in the stomach side of the vent.
Overall, females have a longer, more horizontal cast. After handling hundreds of thousands of coturnix, I can tell full adult females from males, just by how they feel in my hand. Females are typically 1 1/2 to 2 ounces heavier than males of the same strain.
Females with tight, puckered vents, are not laying.
Males with small or very large, solid filled foam balls are not breeding. The best males will have a medium size, softer foam ball.
I sort, select and cull a huge amount of coturnix quail.
Keith
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Re: Quail
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When I lived in the Ecuadorian Amazon I stayed for a month with an old retired US Navy flier who was quite a handy man. He had caged chickens and had a system to take the manure and some chopped up straw which he placed in a barrel and added water. He then put a round piece of solid styrofoam and plywood on the water and when the methane gas raised it up to a certain level it tripped a switch to a repurposed refrigerator condenser which pumped the methane into a tank. The methane tank was the fuel that boiled the water for his coffee every morning. As I recall, this ol' guy lived on coffee and home rolled cigarettes so he pretty much was set.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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