Yeah, you need to be in the predator control business and have a good CPA to run more than a few of those

I’m in the camp of the old victor / B&L. I’ve used many of them all over many years and have honestly found the SC springs to be inferior to the older Vic & B&L traps. That said, I have several dozen SC #3 & #4 traps and use them - they’re good traps.

LPC are the cadillac of new longsprings. But the only people I've ever known that used them were people that had someone else (USFW or stae game agencies, usually) buying their traps for them. Very nice, but not nice enough to justify the price tag.

Wow just looked up the price of LPC dls. talk about sticker shock! Cheapest was 3 1/2 dls at 78 bucks and they went up exponentially from there.

Sterling fur has use Newhouse longs in their catalog in that 48ish mark in nice shape. I think I’d buy those as I think the LPC traps as still based on that design. I saw one LPC first hand and it was very obvious the difference between it and a stock victor as far as steel and so on. Very well made no doubt. In the end however my victors are in that 50 plus year old mark and get used every year and I have to date knock on wood not had one pull out yet.

I do leave my chains on the spring which I feel allows the trap to have not as strong of spring but the way the springs work on a long spring it doesn’t matter as much. Again from what I have seen in using them for years. Miles trigger on some and some just plain stock dog and floppy pan. I have tried the base plate and the laminated jaws on them too Nothing bad but I seem to have very nice feet when many swivels are in play more then any other add on. Just my observations which probably don’t mean much haha. All options and ideas work in the long run.

Sterling Fur has a catalog listing their used traps?

Yes, but call for availability

Blake and Lambs for me too. My brother bought some Sleepy Creeks a few years ago, I didn’t like them. I remember getting 4 dozen Blake n Lamb #3s back in the 80s for $60.00 per dozen.

I've used Sleepy Creeks for sometime and I really like them.

I also was not impressed with soring strength in the sleepy creek 3s&4s so I took and went and bought some 4.5 springs and put in my 4s now you will have a trap one of the fastest dbls I have ever seen. And set over your knee surprisingly easy.