Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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Yes it’s fine for turkey hunting. Just like OTC medicine is directed as taking so many pills, you could actually take half a bottle if so desired, lol. Now if you’re on hog patrol with the USDA shooting thousands of rounds a year, the choke is the least of your concern. You’ll be replacing that barrel once a year. I’ve shot Hevi13’s and TSS for years through a Kicks GT with no ill effects. I shoot a custom choke now that will shoot anything I want to throw down the barrel.
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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Interesting. I will say that I fired the TSS (and some other stuff - Winchester longbeard, Federal lead turkey #5 shot, etc.) through the factory x-full choke and it all patterned terribly. Like, nothing patterned well. Gun is a Mossberg 935 if that matters.
I have fired some lead shot through this choke and it does seem to be a big improvement but honestly it was not optimal setup for patterning the gun so I will probably try to do a better experiment with the lead shot this weekend.
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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Only thing is sly IT IS steel shot. tungsten is steel that is harder than normal steel shot.. I wouldn't shoot it......Not in a turkey choke marked NO STEEL !!! Just put you a plain full choke back in if it came with one. Heck according to the koolaid drinkers it will pattern so good you can shoot it out of an improved cylinder !!!
Found this on internet. considered steel shot?
designs, pellet materials and cleaner burning powders have changed things dramatically. In fact, Tungsten Super Shot or TSS is slowly becoming the gold standard –tungsten's density is nearly identical to gold– as tungsten is nearly twice as dense as lead and five times harder than steel
Third, TSS pellets are very hard, like HEVI-Shot and steel shot, requiring steel-shot-type wads to properly protect barrels and chokes from scoring and erosion. And fourth, TSS pellets are the roundest, smoothest, most uniform-sized pellets I have ever seen or tested.
Here we go again!! Sorry jbyrd63 but Tungsten or Wolfram atomic symbol W is NOT STEEL. It is a very rare ELEMENT #74 on the periodic table of elements. It IS a metal that is about five times harder than steel and about the same weight as gold. Steel is an alloy of iron which is another element, atomic symbol Fe and other metallic elements such as chrome, nickel, molybdenum ect. Pertaining to the OP. Large steel shot acts like RipRap as it moves very little if at all when you walk on it whereas small steel shot tends to flow like sand. This is the reason size restrictions are put in. ie no steel larger than #4 Both Steel and Tungsten will score and damage a steel bbl if they come in contact with it. The “bridging “ effect of large steel shot mentioned earlier has a double whammy as it’s more likely to “pinhole” the petals of the wad, allowing the shot to come into contact with the bbl, and to bulge the choke due to the shot charge’s resistance to flow through the restrictions of the choke. Will the TSS turkey loads damage a extra full turkey tube? Due to the small shot size of most TSS loads I seen advertised 7,8,9, and the super heavy duty wads used by the manufacturer probably not ( flow and resistance to “pinhole”). It will be interesting to hear the choke mfg answer. Hope this helps a little.
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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Slydogx Anything back from Tru-Glo yet? Curious what they’ll say.
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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Federal just responded and suggested contacting Truglo for "a definitive answer" LOL Still waiting on word from Truglo
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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Thanks, keep us posted ? I’m inclined to agree with Wanna Be. Tube mfg no. Shell mfg Shur no problem. I do know that the waterfowl steel specific extended tubes are made of some really tough stuff 17-4? if I remember correctly. They also have a very gradual taper to the restriction. And shot size and even velocity disclaimers.
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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With the liability laws in this country you can bet if it was a danger to shoot turkey loads through a turkey tube you can bet warnings would be all over the boxes/tubes. LOL
That ankle deep kiddie pool with the no diving sticker comes to mind here.
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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Well, no answer from Truglo so I'm going to assume I won't get a response anytime soon. If I do hear from them, I 'll update the thread
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Well, no response from Truglo but this is settled for me. I ran 1 round of Federal 3rd degree TSS through and no damage or scoring was evident...but All pics at 20 yds, in order Federal 3" #5 turkey shot Winchester Supreme 3" #5 turkey shot Federal TSS - still a dead bird, but no sense in spending the extra money in this gun
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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Federal #5 loads are my choice looks to be the best that last target has a big miss spot in that pattern. Kent 3 1/2 2 1/4 #5 diamond shot at 41 yards (41 yds so I could sit on the porch).
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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From the TSS I have shot in 12 and 20 gage, TSS does not like the constriction of your typical extra tight turkey chokes. I shoot hand rolled TSS in my 20 through a factory full choke and it has a better pattern at 40 yds than any posted on this thread. My standard for patterning TSS is 40 yds and I get over 200 pellets in a 10" circle with my 20 at 40 yds.
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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Federal #5 loads are my choice looks to be the best that last target has a big miss spot in that pattern. Kent 3 1/2 2 1/4 #5 diamond shot at 41 yards (41 yds so I could sit on the porch). Very nice pattern...and I like your thinking (41), lol!
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Re: TSS through a truglo gobblestopper choke...
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I'm going to keep trying until I get something the gun likes, but I have a limited amount of time to get out and do things like patterning guns. I may even invest in another gun for turkey and keep the Mossberg as a goose killer. Results through the factory x full choke and the Truglo choke have not been really satisfactory
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Them 1st and 2nd targets look doable to me.
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I'm going to keep trying until I get something the gun likes, but I have a limited amount of time to get out and do things like patterning guns. I may even invest in another gun for turkey and keep the Mossberg as a goose killer. Results through the factory x full choke and the Truglo choke have not been really satisfactory OK looks like your wasting your precious time if you want something better than the first pic!! LOL. Just how dead you want the bird. ??? TSS IS NOT the end all some claim. Been MILLIONS of birds killed with lead and they are still dead !!!
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