Paging Jumperzee
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06/14/21 10:33 PM
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white17
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4 miles south of me right now. 81 degrees and dry as popcorn. Big white spruce Burned needles falling in my yard now. Can hear them hitting the deck roof. Of course the FAA chose this very time to resurface the runway so we can't run retardant or jumpers out here at this time. Might be a hot time in the old town tonight ! I hate summer !
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/14/21 11:26 PM
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That's not good at all Ken ! I hope you folks stay safe and that fire is contained in a short amount of time !
Or get Pete busy on that I'm sure he's ready to get back to work !
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: Leftlane]
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06/15/21 09:20 PM
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white17
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Did they get a handle on this one White17? They dropped 12 guys on it and got one load of retardant on it but it is still uncontained. The wind came around from SW to W and that has helped clear the smoke. Tomorrow the wind is supposed to swing NW and then NE. That should help a lot TATER: I think the last time I had a beer was in 1990. Lips that touch liquor will never touch mine !! Pic from this morning.
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/16/21 11:30 AM
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White -
Are all those summer recreational homes, condominiums, and boutiques along the boardwalk going to be okay?
Jack
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: Gulo]
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06/16/21 11:53 AM
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Pete in Frbks
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White -
Are all those summer recreational homes, condominiums, and boutiques along the boardwalk going to be okay?
Jack You are killing me here Jack! Pray for the Greater McGrath Metropolitan Area...! Pete
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/16/21 12:20 PM
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Did they get a handle on this one White17? They dropped 12 guys on it and got one load of retardant on it but it is still uncontained. The wind came around from SW to W and that has helped clear the smoke. Tomorrow the wind is supposed to swing NW and then NE. That should help a lot TATER: I think the last time I had a beer was in 1990. Lips that touch liquor will never touch mine !! Pic from this morning. It looks like a couple of Fire Bosses would do some good on that left flank and catch it in the light flashy fuels and give you a cold black edge to work with.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: Jumperzee]
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06/16/21 10:05 PM
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And the golf course! Latest I could find for you: A golf course? Sounds like a decent jump spot because obviously you can’t drive there.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/16/21 10:22 PM
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Hey White, did that fire burn any of your trapping ground?
Also, what are your thoughts on fur bearing animal populations after a fires gone through? Certain animals that become abundant for the first 1-5 years then others after that? That sorta thing.
Cold as ice!
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/16/21 10:45 PM
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Thanks! Fires have come through here too and I was wondering how trapping will be after that. I’m sure Marten won’t like a charcoal forest, but maybe fox will be in there looking for mice and rabbits in the new grass!
Cold as ice!
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/17/21 12:07 AM
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Hope all goes well White17. Nothing worse than fire on the prairie or the forest!!!!
Everything the left touches it destroys
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/17/21 09:34 AM
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I'd sure like to see you get that rain, sounds like your country needs it more than anyone elses
“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.” Captain Gus McCrae- Texas Rangers
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/17/21 11:45 AM
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I am hoping the rain comes and helps. We had the longest lightning storm with rain I think I can ever remember, it was well over 2 hours solid. I don’t do local news or don’t follow face book to find out how many fires were started but I hope it wasn’t many. We were starting to get smoke from a fire by Ft. Knox mine before the storm. Wish you well Ken!
I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/17/21 04:52 PM
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Yes, you are getting good rain now ! Love to see cool temps and rain in summer. mid 30s , and good rains for some days in the NW regions here. Don't know why so many love baking sun and the heat ! Years ago, when the summers were always cool and rainy , those who moved into North Idaho from CA complained about the cool wet, and after a couple of years many moved out. Locals just smiled....along with the real winters ...really helped to thin out those who also didn't care for what the west was all about . Enjoy the rain....
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/17/21 05:12 PM
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Great news Ken. [b][/b] PTL.
Hunt with your Kids, not for them. >>>----->
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[Re: white17]
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06/17/21 05:41 PM
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It's RAINING !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That’s awesome!!!
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/20/21 10:36 AM
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white 17 -
I just had to resurrect this thread and comment Ken. Most people have the idea that forest fires are "bad". This comes, I suspect, from listening to, and believing the narrative, on MSM. In my opinion, nothing further from the truth. Wildfire, as you know, Ken, is an integral part of Alaska. Most of the resources that we use (lynx, marten, moose, etc) are dependent on periodic "renewal", facilitated by recurring wildfire. The best thing, in my opinion, that can occur, is mosaic natural wildfires that knock back or reset the natural progression of vegetation. Obviously, I'm all in favor of protecting trapline cabins and villages, but most of that area throughout interior Alaska, really needs to burn periodically. I'm sure you don't disagree.
My $.02....
Jack
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[Re: Wanna Be]
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06/20/21 11:09 AM
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Pete in Frbks
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So I guess controlled burns aren’t done out there? Sure. We do plenty of fuel reduction and habitat enhancement fires in AK. I can recall at least one project where we fired out over 50,000 acres in two days in the Fortymile Country (and the third day it rained and we were heroes!) But the bottom line is that we get plenty of natural fire (from lightening starts) and really don't need to deliberately light much. Pete
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[Re: Pete in Frbks]
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06/20/21 01:16 PM
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So I guess controlled burns aren’t done out there? Sure. We do plenty of fuel reduction and habitat enhancement fires in AK. I can recall at least one project where we fired out over 50,000 acres in two days in the Fortymile Country (and the third day it rained and we were heroes!) But the bottom line is that we get plenty of natural fire (from lightening starts) and really don't need to deliberately light much. Pete I understand that, but wouldn’t more controlled burns reduce the fuel for the natural fires? It seems most fires I hear about are in areas where they haven’t been burned before if ever. That’s a lot of fuel waiting to ignite. We keep ours on a three year rotation and they can sometimes be a handful. Can’t imagine 10+ years of fuel on the deck.
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/20/21 01:21 PM
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The fire that's burning now is running into an old burn that is probably getting close to 20 years old. Oh Snap said there was a fire near Fort Knox. I guess it must have been close to twenty years ago I was working at the mine and that entire area was ablaze. Went home smelling like you'd spent the day downwind of a smoldering campfire. Couldn't see across the mine some days. Stunted black spruce, wouldn't think there'd be anything left to burn.
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/20/21 01:31 PM
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I went through Ft. Knox mine about 4 or 5 years ago. I don't recall seeing evidence of a fire. We could see the fires burning in the distance from the road going into the mine. It doesn't seem (memory) like it was that far off. There were days when you couldn't see the far side of the mine for the smoke.
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/20/21 01:45 PM
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I can believe that !!
What an interesting place !! What took you down there, Ken? I'm glad you got the rain. Couldn't help but notice some planes in one of your pics and wondered if any of them were fabric.
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: white17]
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06/20/21 01:48 PM
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Posco Would that have been the wolf creek fire? I am trying to remember what year that was. There were 2 fires that joined and burned a huge area and smoke it seemed forever!
I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: Oh Snap]
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06/20/21 01:57 PM
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Posco Would that have been the wolf creek fire? I am trying to remember what year that was. There were 2 fires that joined and burned a huge area and smoke it seemed forever! It could be. I remember days when it was questionable whether they would let us into the mine depending on which way the wind was blowing. I have pictures here somewhere I took of the fires from the mine road. The quality of the pics are poor because I waited too long before I had the film developed. I'll try to dig them out and post them up. They lost a lot of acreage that summer.
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Re: Paging Jumperzee
[Re: Posco]
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06/20/21 02:00 PM
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white17
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I can believe that !!
What an interesting place !! What took you down there, Ken? I'm glad you got the rain. Couldn't help but notice some planes in one of your pics and wondered if any of them were fabric. Possible there were some private aircraft in the area just rubber-necking. Those could certainly be rag airplanes but DNR doesn't use any as far as I know. Mostly an Aero-commander for recon and admin. All the jump ships are metal as are the choppers and tankers of course The superintendent at FT Knox was the son of a friend of mine. He took us through. Plus I am a freak about geology. The equipment is amazing !
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