Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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Traceability was never anything more than a marketing tool. All sorts of products use labelling to make their product stand out. Free range, organic, dolphin free, locally grown,....... bla bla bla. I don't think there was any sinister end goal. X 2 If they knew where to send the check they already had the information.
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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Canada Goose wanted to certify the fur, they didn't want NAFA too. They had everything they used making the coats certified other than the fur. They had the down certified, the cloth, the zippers. It was what they wanted. Do you think they would fly people all over the world to talk about it if there weren't serous about it?
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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Email, them let them know what you think I did.
Good idea!
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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You tell me what more they wanted.
I'm only assuming this is how it would of went. Year one- "We want you to sign this document saying you followed state laws and the fur is cruelty free" Year Two- "We want to dictate what traps and methods are used" Year Three- "We are going to synthetic to appease PETA types"
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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This is the ironic part of their announcement, and what everyone should focus on if they contact Canada Goose.
“The decision is driven by our purpose and our focus on sustainability and innovation,” Dani Reiss, president and chief executive officer, told WWD in an interview. “We know that consumers are putting more importance on brands and their sustainability.
I cannot think of a more sustainable renewable green product on the face of this earth than coyotes. Email I sent. Good day,
Heard the news you will not be using wild fur in your products anymore. Was curious what material you have found that is better than wild fur? Below is your company statement. Have you developed a new material to replace the coyote ruffs?
WE ARE A FUNCTION-FIRST COMPANY, AND AUTHENTICITY IS EVERYTHING TO CANADA GOOSE. SINCE 1957 WE HAVE FOCUSED ON MAKING BEST-IN-CLASS PRODUCTS BY USING THE HIGHEST QUALITY MATERIALS AND CRAFTSMANSHIP TO DELIVER A PRODUCT THAT PERFORMS WHEN AND WHERE IT’S NEEDED MOST.
Or has your company’s policy changed on function first?
Not only does wild fur function great, look great, it is the most environmentally friendly product available. Please do not give in to PETA and produce more micro plastics.
Waste of time but made me feel better, not a hope in h$# i get a response.
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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I'm only assuming this is how it would of went.
Year one- "We want you to sign this document saying you followed state laws and the fur is cruelty free" Year Two- "We want to dictate what traps and methods are used" Year Three- "We are going to synthetic to appease PETA types"[/quote] You shouldn't assume
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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There is another Canadian company positioned to pick up the slack. I heard they sell their parkas in Cabelas and use coyote. Trappers need to support them.
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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I'm only assuming this is how it would of went.
Year one- "We want you to sign this document saying you followed state laws and the fur is cruelty free" Year Two- "We want to dictate what traps and methods are used" Year Three- "We are going to synthetic to appease PETA types"[/quote]
Yes, this is your assumption, But how it really played is
CG- We would like you harvesters to sign a tractability/legal harvest paper Most fur guys- Not happening CG, you need us to supply you a product! CG- No we have other options MFG- Oh yeah what options? CG- Quit using fur. MFG- Huh, who saw that coming.
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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I just looked at the Cabela's catalog and no coats are made by a company that starts with the letter O. Strike Master and Carhart have a coat with fake fur trim. When I went to OSC's site it listed them sold at Cabela's and had a link that you could go to Cabela's site and see coats. So I don't know what is up with that. It looks to me like the OSC parka's as sold at Cabela's in Canada and not in the USA.
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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Bulloney.
Groenwald and Canadian AIHTS had all the certified coyotes CG would ever need. They could have used some kind of certified ranch fur for crying out loud.
CG is dancing to PETAs tune and their (certified) down feathers are next. PETA is putting on a show, a publicity stunt. That is what they do . What more do you need to know?
Go woke go broke.
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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They sell coats all over the world,probably not just thru Cabelas.Heard people have bought some at Cabelas. Are Cabelas in any other country besides Canada and US? Maybe Cabelas USA is anti fur.
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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Cabelas was bought out by bass pro. Cabelas used to sell traps, maybe still do.
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Re: Canada Goose bans all fur
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My message at the bottom, their response above.
Sanique R CG NA J (Canada Goose)
Jun 25, 2021, 4:42 PM EDT
Thank you for contacting Canada Goose. It's our pleasure to assist you!
Our business decisions have never been or will be, influenced by external groups. This is about taking the long view and doing what’s right for our brand. We’ve done great work in setting the standard for reclaimed fur and it's something we’ll always be proud of.
There are many reasons why we made this decision, but the main one is that this is the right thing to do for our brand and the right time to do it. We have transformed from a winter apparel manufacturer to a performance luxury brand and now - to a global lifestyle brand. We are and will continue to be, driven by our purpose and our commitment to deliver function-first designs.
At Canada Goose we are most comfortable swimming upstream – we’re no stranger to transformational change. This is about taking the long view and doing what’s right for the brand.
Our product innovation is driven by our purpose and commitment to deliver function-first designs that provide all the warmth and protection without the need for fur. We are sorry to hear that this decision has affected your love for our brand.
Thank you for emailing Canada Goose! Have a safe and fantastic rest of your week!
Warmest regards,
Canada Goose Customer Care
Jun 25, 2021, 1:28 PM EDT **This email was not sent from Canada Goose** I could not be more disappointed reading the recent announcement that Canada Goose is "Going fur free". In these times when everyone seems to be professing to "Follow the science" it appears that Canada Goose is doing just the opposite, based on the following quote.
“The decision is driven by our purpose and our focus on sustainability and innovation,” Dani Reiss, president and chief executive officer, told WWD in an interview. “We know that consumers are putting more importance on brands and their sustainability.
If Canada Goose and their consumers were truly interested in sustainability, they would understand that coyote and other managed furbearers are the most sustainable, renewable and environmentally friendly resource that can be used to produce your end product. Not to mention the beauty, durability and functional qualities of this totally natural product.
Rather than cave to the pressure of animal rights ideology it would be refreshing to see a company of your stature and reputation speak up for sound wildlife management and responsible utilization of natural sustainable resources.
I respectfully ask you to please reconsider this decision which appears to have been made under social pressure in the absence of some important facts.
Thank you,
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