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Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7321985
08/04/21 09:22 PM
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Back door way to know where you are at all times as well as more taxes to do so. Sure is a lot more folks then 20 years ago willing to give up our freedoms without a whimper even.


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Re: Driving tax [Re: T-Rex] #7321987
08/04/21 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by T-Rex
OK, the only fair taxes are user taxes.

So, it the government thieves want to tax me per mile, why don't they drop the gasoline tax? That is already a per mile road tax.


Anyone ever know any government to relinquish a tax once it's in place?


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Re: Driving tax [Re: Scott__aR] #7321993
08/04/21 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Scott__aR
Originally Posted by T-Rex
OK, the only fair taxes are user taxes.

So, it the government thieves want to tax me per mile, why don't they drop the gasoline tax? That is already a per mile road tax.


Anyone ever know any government to relinquish a tax once it's in place?


case in point...The Johnstown Flood Tax

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2017/04/12/pas-18-hidden-tax-supposed-temporary-1936/100343742/

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Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322054
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Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322056
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Need I say anymore

Re: Driving tax [Re: stinkypete] #7322059
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Originally Posted by stinkypete
Need I say anymore


Nope......trigger warning.. laugh


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Re: Driving tax [Re: mike mason] #7322060
08/04/21 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mike mason
Originally Posted by charles
I favor user taxes.

I have no children in school, should I have to pay school taxes? More children in school higher taxes?


Wait until you retire and depend upon the productivity of that generation.

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Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322062
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With user taxes, if you don’t use it, you don’t pay it. Like a toll road you never use. Some general taxes are necessary for things like police, the military, and education.

Highway tax is typically collected via fuel tax, but electric vehicle use will soon require a change to the way we collect highway taxes.

My state charges a food tax. Some think that is unfair.

Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322063
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When the bill comes due it is most likely the baby boomers and gen xers are going to get told to go fly a kite by the younger generations. But not that polite.


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Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322082
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So we already have vehicle sales tax, registration tax, and gas tax. I think that ought to cover it.


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Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322103
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Gas tax is a user tax. Hit the electrics with a road tax!

Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322106
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I thought thats what gas tax was?

Re: Driving tax [Re: martentrapper] #7322118
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Originally Posted by martentrapper
Gas tax is a user tax. Hit the electrics with a road tax!


Can’t do that yet, gotta give incentives until everyone drives electric, then you hit em with the electric vehicle tax. Politics 101, incentivize voters to conform, and then when they do switch the script and call it “for the greater good”


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Re: Driving tax [Re: James] #7322126
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by mike mason

I have no children in school, should I have to pay school taxes? More children in school higher taxes?


Wait until you retire and depend upon the productivity of that generation.

Jim

If I have to depend on the productivity of the generation coming up now, I'm in trouble. I'll depend on my own productivity, thank you very much!

Now if someone would just make that generation depend on their own productivity and leave mine alone it would be a lot easier.

Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322131
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You all talk about the younger generation like they’re no good, but statistically they’re in better shape than most of you were at their age by a long, long ways.


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Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322143
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What is to stop someone from removing all that Government spyware on their vehicle ?

Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322147
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Oh, Heck, let's just have a PERSON TAX. For every Child that is born; tax each Parent a 25 % tax on their yearly income in addition to what they would pay in State and Federal Income Tax !! LMAO !!! grin

Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322158
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In Japan, they pay people to have kids.

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Re: Driving tax [Re: Drifter] #7322160
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They pay people to have kids here. It's called welfare. Duh...........

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Re: Driving tax [Re: Providence Farm] #7322164
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by charles
I favor user taxes.



How do you feel about property tax?

I paid taxes on the income when I made it and sales tax when I bought it but now I am forced to continue renting it from the government. Add in they raise that tax almost yearly.

Personally I agree with most user taxes. The one tax I'm admittedly against is property tax. In theory if you own the right land and can be self sufficient you should be able to live off of it with no payment. But....with property tax you must have income, well then you have to pay income tax.

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