Re: Driving tax
[Re: Redknot]
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If they are truly looking at this as some environmental issue, why are they lumping all passenger vehicles in one group? It seems a 4-cylinder might have less of an environmental impact over an 8-cylinder car...Why no distinction or incentive to have some move toward a higher fuel mileage car?? DC must be heavily vested in plastics either directly or on the sly because that to me is the number one item poisoning the earth today that could be reduced or recycled better in the time ahead. Back when I was growing up DC pushed plastic over paper had we gone with paper things would be better today. We still need plastics but we need to be more responsible using and disposing of plastics.
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Re: Driving tax
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The government’s of this country all waste incredible amounts of money. They dont need more Exactly! Favor less spending,less taxing,more/better oversight and a better informed citizenry!
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Re: Driving tax
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Re: Driving tax
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I have no children in school, should I have to pay school taxes? More children in school higher taxes? Excellent point, Mike.
Most in this country have things people in other countries only dream about. Yet, they want America to be more like those other countries.
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Re: Driving tax
[Re: Drifter]
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Here in France, there is no such tax for average folks, and I think not for trucks either. So many trucks from all over Europe pass through here every day, and the European leaders are so inept, I doubt they could keep track of it. They do keep track of their hours and rest breaks.
I think our infrastructure is another thing in our lives that worked fine for so long, but isn't working so great anymore. When it comes to spending the infrastructure money, there are too many hands in the bucket for it to be spent wisely. Trucks need to roll, trains need to run, and everybody needs to get to work.
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Re: Driving tax
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What bugs me is its the big haul trucks that wreck the roads(they ignore the half load restrictions in spring too) but the taxpayer subsidizes the maintenance of said roads.(and they still all full of potholes). Their competition-the railroads have to maintain their own road-so it is an uneven playing field with a huge advantage of public money going to one and not the other.
They need to make the users pay their fair share whoever they are.Taxpayer cant keep subsidizing certain private buisness. Thought the govt built your railroads?
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Re: Driving tax
[Re: hippie]
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We pay over 2400$ a year apiece yearly to register our tucks, add that to the tax on a gallon of diesel and you'll find trucks more than pay their way.
Not even close. 1 overloaded/fully loaded mine oretruck or log truck during spring half load restrictions can destroy a whole secondary highway or municipal roadway.
Last edited by Boco; 08/05/21 01:04 PM.
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Re: Driving tax
[Re: charles]
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Hilton Head SC just made a toll road free. The bond sold to build it is fully paid off. A tax that went away.
I am certainly not about more taxes, but if more are coming, those who benefit should be the ones who pay. That is what a user tax is all about. If the government didn't waste so much money, taxes wouldn't need to be raised or new taxes wouldn't have to be created all the time.
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Re: Driving tax
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We pay over 2400$ a year apiece yearly to register our tucks, add that to the tax on a gallon of diesel and you'll find trucks more than pay their way.
We pay properly taxes on all our vehicles here. It’s crazy a new pickup might be $1000 or more a year. Then add all the property taxes paid on land. Some ground we have is $30/ac Tax the company that drills a oil well plus permits, tax the oil that is pumped and the trucks and drivers hauling it. Tax the heck out of the oil refinery. Tax the trucks and drivers hauling the refined fuel. Then tax 10 different ways from Sunday the quick shop selling the fuel and then add another tax to the fuel. Mind blowing when you think about the whole process
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Re: Driving tax
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Ya outta pave yer roads up there. Secondary hiways and municipal roads are normally prime.
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Re: Driving tax
[Re: Drifter]
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So your a criminal if you can’t read? I don’t buy that I have seen more then once a farmer pass his checkbook to the counter person to fill it out. Maybe criminals are to lazy to learn that skill.
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Re: Driving tax
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We pay over 2400$ a year apiece yearly to register our tucks, add that to the tax on a gallon of diesel and you'll find trucks more than pay their way.
We pay properly taxes on all our vehicles here. It’s crazy a new pickup might be $1000 or more a year. Then add all the property taxes paid on land. Some ground we have is $30/ac Tax the company that drills a oil well plus permits, tax the oil that is pumped and the trucks and drivers hauling it. Tax the heck out of the oil refinery. Tax the trucks and drivers hauling the refined fuel. Then tax 10 different ways from Sunday the quick shop selling the fuel and then add another tax to the fuel. Mind blowing when you think about the whole process Is $30 an AC a lot for farmland? In the people republic of MN that would be a good deal in many areas.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Driving tax
[Re: charles]
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Imagine our military with uneducated solders who can’t read a manual. Education is in vital public defense. Read today in a book by a Georgia author, that 3rd grade reading test indicate how many prisons the state will need in ten years. Maybe there should be a Stupid Tax on these folks.
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