Re: Trapping canoe question
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08/11/21 03:06 PM
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I think you're asking an awful lot out of a small canoe. To be faster you typically give up some stability and capacity. Exactly what I was thinking. Toss a few coon and or beaver in there and stability and carrying capacity will go way up on your list of "must haves".
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Re: Trapping canoe question
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08/11/21 03:14 PM
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I ran a short canoe line a few years ago in early December. Waited for a storm front and set 20 dog proofs. Zero first 2 checks. 13 coon in the canoe once the front came and I pulled the line. All boars but 2. That canoe was really heavy at the end and I was exhausted. Beware of a successful run!! Classic case of "be careful what you wish for" !! If I have your catch ratio of 65% I'll have 23 coons to paddle out lol. I will have to call the woman and have her meet me at a bridge to offload some of the catch!
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Re: Trapping canoe question
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If It were me I'd scrap the canoe thing and get a small Jon boat. Getting In and out of a canoe 100 times a day to set and check traps Is going to be a real pain In the butt when trapping out of a canoe. I have a10' Jon boat and I just love it. I can load It up In the back of my pick up and I'm good to go.
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Re: Trapping canoe question
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A little update…I found a mad river guide solo canoe 30 minutes away from my house. It is made out of royalex and weighs about 55 pounds. Plenty light to load up and carry by myself and it has a carrying capacity of 750 pounds. Supposed to handle class II’s no issue so I’ll be able to take it on the New River.
It should be the perfect happy medium between capacity for trapping and paddle-ability for leisure trips. It’s a 1999 model and the guy I bought it from bought it brand new. The wood gunwales have been refinished with new ash and they’re beautiful. Can’t wait to take it out for the maiden voyage!
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Re: Trapping canoe question
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08/12/21 09:49 PM
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^ that looks like a goodun if you get it for the right price.
I use an osage 17' that is 70# and holds 750#. Loads up on my jeep e-z. The best way to load a canoe is right side up /keel down, unless it is raining heavy.
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Re: Trapping canoe question
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08/12/21 10:18 PM
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^ that looks like a goodun if you get it for the right price.
I use an osage 17' that is 70# and holds 750#. Loads up on my jeep e-z. The best way to load a canoe is right side up /keel down, unless it is raining heavy. I got it for 800 bucks. He was asking 1100. He definitely knew what he had. The royalex boats are getting rare and they literally aren’t making any more of them. I was happy with that price based on the other prices I saw of similar boats. Most sell for 1000-1400 bucks. This one is in immaculate condition and has been cared for very well
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Re: Trapping canoe question
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08/14/21 10:25 AM
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X2 what tomahawker said. Thats a lot of traps for such a small boat. Wet coons and beaver are heavy. i run a small river line (small river not line) at times. I use an outboard and small v bottom. boat gets chained and padlocked to a tree every night. Motor and fur go home with me in my pickup. I stash fur and traps under bridges. Pick up traps as I go and pick up dead critters at the end of the day. You better cut back to a dozen beaver traps if you cant do that. Hit a lick and a dozen will be to many. Run a dozen traps only and your going to set high probability locations. You may have a dozen beaver at the end of your run. that will be at least 400 pounds. maybe more. Going into the water on a bitter cold winter day is unpleasant to say the least. Sooner or later it will happen too. No need to make it even more likely by overloading your boat.
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Re: Trapping canoe question
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08/14/21 12:38 PM
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X2 what tomahawker said. Thats a lot of traps for such a small boat. Wet coons and beaver are heavy. i run a small river line (small river not line) at times. I use an outboard and small v bottom. boat gets chained and padlocked to a tree every night. Motor and fur go home with me in my pickup. I stash fur and traps under bridges. Pick up traps as I go and pick up dead critters at the end of the day. You better cut back to a dozen beaver traps if you cant do that. Hit a lick and a dozen will be to many. Run a dozen traps only and your going to set high probability locations. You may have a dozen beaver at the end of your run. that will be at least 400 pounds. maybe more. Going into the water on a bitter cold winter day is unpleasant to say the least. Sooner or later it will happen too. No need to make it even more likely by overloading your boat. I’ll only be setting about a half dozen beaver/otter traps. Not many beaver in the area. I’ll be setting about 3 dozen coon/mink/muskrat traps. 1.5 dukes don’t weigh much! A stellar day for me would be 20 coon and 3 beaver. I would still be under my weight capacity with that load, me, and my gear. Have you by chance considered an Old Town "Pack" canoe? They were discontinued a while back, but still around used. A solo 12' at 33 lbs. Have used one for 30 years trapping, fishing and hunting, the older I get the more I appreciate the 33 lbs at the end of the day. I would have loved to have found one, but I never saw one for sale in all of my searching. I’m happy with my choice though!
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Re: Trapping canoe question
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08/14/21 02:20 PM
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When I float fur trapped, I used my old town, still use it all the time for pay jobs, just take a few skinning knives, etc, and skin some beaver etc if you get too heavy to drop weight. A lot of fun to be had on navigable water.
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