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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan.
[Re: Gary Benson]
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Old Joe just let that happen, it looks like it was set up that way or the Taliban would of been shooting more then they did. Could be Sniffy got a big check or they purchased some art pieces from Jr.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan.
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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08/16/21 01:40 PM
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I gotta ask ,how many wars where a linear millitary group fought a nonlinear / insurgency group and won ?
Regardless if tactics. When it come to come somewhere like that area unless your able to either A. Get the populous completely on your side and with the balls to fight for there or B. Complete and total ethnic cleansing to the point no one is lest what so ever your just going to keep having kids, wives , cousins ect of the slain picking up arms to avenge theirs When did the Japanese avenge? Yet again that was a linear war. Not mention the Japanese are a different kinda of people compared to most insurgent groups now days
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan.
[Re: henpecked1]
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08/16/21 01:50 PM
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Wolfdog has a lot of wisdom, but the real issue is what are you going to do about it , how many of you have called there congressman or senator and explained how this is impacting your life, not many I bet. Those of you that have served in the mid east understand what is going on. All you others that never served are exersizing you freedom of speech, congratulations. We that have served are use to the droning of uneducated experts that have never spent time in very difficult environments..
laws of probability says you will still vote your pocketbook and not get involved and you definetly will not exersize your freedom speech rights if its going to cost you.
The Afgan people and most of the 3rd world will not fight because it has been bred out of them just as it is being done here.
Maybe Etheopia is next Rumsfeld made the all volunteer military he knew what he was doing. Hang in there Wolfdog. I won't say wisdom, just had alot of ideas I've had based out by seniors in the ranks who seen some crap. Not to mention all the historical class you have to study up on before deployment ,I'm not even joking. They what you to know stuff from the Karan , different ethnic groups , ideals they why I keep saying fighting these guys is not like fighting the Germans or Japanese. Like I said before look at what happens when we fought Saddam in a linear fashion. Then compare that to when the Iraqi guard went to fighting non linear. I got out in February though arthritis ,a bad back , and mental issues don't make too good of a solider. Especially a mechanic lol
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan.
[Re: Gary Benson]
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08/16/21 01:53 PM
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Humans are humans. When survivors are starving to death nothing else is important anymore
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan.
[Re: danny clifton]
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08/16/21 02:00 PM
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Humans are humans. When survivors are starving to death nothing else is important anymore We weren't exactly hailed as heroes in Somalia
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan.
[Re: Gary Benson]
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08/16/21 02:18 PM
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No need for nukes it’s not the lack of firepower or the commitment of our troops it’s the double dealing spineless idiots in DC that cannot keep their eye on the prize. Generals like to win wars politicians don’t mind loosing them.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan.
[Re: Wolfdog91]
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08/16/21 02:18 PM
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And yes let's nuke them
1. We kill millions
2. The nuclear fall out is probably going to spread to other countries due to the wind killing even more and destroying land for possibly centuries
3. Now we have confirmed everything isis the Tali and all those other groups have been telling Muslims about us being the true enemy
4. Probably going to get condemned buy every other country , and that's a can of worms by is self
5. Radicals every where from Chechnya to the Philippines to right here are probably going to go off the deep end for revenge.
6. Other Muslim nations like Saudi are probably gonna try and cut ties with us to show solidarity
7. Attacks will probably start and it's not going to be that red dawn thing every one wants ......
I could go on but I digress because meh. Or we can keep letting them kill us around the world and keep infiltrating all levels of our government. I could care less what the rest of the world thinks. Wait til the Talibs tick off China, they have zero issues with ethnic cleansing. We let our conscience get in the way of winning wars here.
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan.
[Re: danny clifton]
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08/16/21 02:36 PM
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Humans are humans. When survivors are starving to death nothing else is important anymore I agree with 90% of what you've said in this post but I think you're overlooking something here and that's religious fanaticism. The people that are willing to strap suicide vests to themselves and even to their children in the name of Allah are NOT going to befriend the infidels no matter how hungry they get. They'd consider it an honor to die of starvation for Allah. And most of the people in those countries ARE religious fanatics. It's not like the US where Christianity tends to be just a part of a persons life... in those countries their religion IS their life.
~~Proud Ultra MAGA~~
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan.
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I agree with you there, Trapdog. Neither Dem president knew how to clean up Bush's mess.
I don't follow either party.
Jim Clinton had first dibs on Bin Laden and didn't act!
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DJT & MTG in 2024!
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Re: Taliban took over Afghanistan.
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08/16/21 02:59 PM
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I gotta ask ,how many wars where a linear millitary group fought a nonlinear / insurgency group and won ?
Regardless if tactics. When it come to come somewhere like that area unless your able to either A. Get the populous completely on your side and with the balls to fight for there or B. Complete and total ethnic cleansing to the point no one is lest what so ever your just going to keep having kids, wives , cousins ect of the slain picking up arms to avenge theirs When did the Japanese avenge? Yet again that was a linear war. Not mention the Japanese are a different kinda of people compared to most insurgent groups now days Not quite. 80,000 gone in a second. No uniforms or age limit. Different kind of people? Yes, even more radical as they would kill themselves for dishonor.
-Goofy-
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