Re: Water restrictions
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So will they figure how to make the desalination process cheaper or build a pipeline to the Great Lakes ? it was just a few years ago the great lakes were down 7-8 feet we are up high right now but that doesn't mean much you would be better off building more bigger reservoirs where the water is needed and let them fill when it does rain , dig while it's dry switch from ethanol corn to food and grow it closer to the better water we can feed a lot of people not burning corn as fuel , not when it takes so much natural gas to make it into portable fuel.
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Re: Water restrictions
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Import beavers. They'll cut the cactusses to make dams.
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Re: Water restrictions
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Well live in a desert and I guess you do without. Sam Kinnison has a great bit on this, that due to some foul language, I can't post here. Here is a transcript cleaned up. "You want to help world hunger? Stop sending them food. Don’t send them another bite, send them U-Hauls. Send them a guy that says, “You know, we’ve been coming here giving you food for about 35 years now and we were driving through the desert, and we realized there wouldn’t BE world hunger if you people would live where the FOOD IS! YOU LIVE IN A DESERT!! UNDERSTAND THAT? YOU LIVE IN A DESERT!! NOTHING GROWS HERE! NOTHING’S GONNA GROW HERE! Come here, you see this? This is sand. You know what it’s gonna be 100 years from now? IT’S GONNA BE SAND!! YOU LIVE IN A DESERT! We have deserts in America, we just don’t LIVE in them, morons!” Keith
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Re: Water restrictions
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08/17/21 01:14 PM
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So will they figure how to make the desalination process cheaper or build a pipeline to the Great Lakes ? it was just a few years ago the great lakes were down 7-8 feet we are up high right now but that doesn't mean much. It would be a win-win situation during wet year cycles as often the Great Lakes chain are swimming in an over abundance of water. Let the overflow rip into the aquaduct in years of high water, and turn off the spigot when dry cycles are prevalent. Make California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico pay for the pipeline and charge them per gallon. Oh, and teach them water conservation. walleyed
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Re: Water restrictions
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08/17/21 01:37 PM
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If they tap into the great lakes the lakes are doomed. People need to leave the desert. Don't deplete and abuse our natural resources, live in harmony with them.
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Re: Water restrictions
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08/17/21 02:31 PM
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it was just a few years ago the great lakes were down 7-8 feet we are up high right now but that doesn't mean much.
It would be a win-win situation during wet year cycles as often the Great Lakes chain are swimming in an over abundance of water. Let the overflow rip into the aquaduct in years of high water, and turn off the spigot when dry cycles are prevalent. Make California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico pay for the pipeline and charge them per gallon. Oh, and teach them water conservation. walleyed if you were going to do that it would make a lot more sense to pull the water off at the Illinois and Mississippi approximately St louse the issue is St louse if 466 feet and Kansas city is 909 you would be liftin it 443 feet just to go that first leg and that is a drop in the bucket compared to Pueblo at 4692 feet just a 3800 foot lift digging the reservoirs larger in the west any place they are low now start increasing capacity a cubic yard of fill out is a cubic yard of capacity added if you were going to move water wouldn't it make more sense to move it from the north west , put in a dams before letting the water flow into the ocean and becoming salt water then pump it closer to sea-level down the coast sure those rivers are a lot smaller but diverting those rivers and pulling water from them before they dump into the ocean is a lot shorter distance than pumping it clear across the continental divide the amount of water going into the pacific or rather not going in shouldn't make a hill of beans difference. yes those rivers are probably dry right now , but over winter and spring collecting more water in enlarged reservoirs could meet the difference with a lot less work and cost than a trans continental pipe line. there are rivers all down the west coast first put a lock and dam on each of those before they dump the fresh water into the pacific and pump to a reservoir closer to the demand
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Re: Water restrictions
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Umm, that is a ridiculous idea to dam all the west coast rivers. You trying to kill off all the steelhead and salmon? Here in ID we're barely meeting brood stock requirements as is, and building more dams would be the final nail in the coffin. I could care less if the idiots in CA stay thirsty, they made their bed now they can sleep in it.
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Re: Water restrictions
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Umm, that is a ridiculous idea to dam all the west coast rivers. You trying to kill off all the steelhead and salmon? Here in ID we're barely meeting brood stock requirements as is, and building more dams would be the final nail in the coffin. I could care less if the idiots in CA stay thirsty, they made their bed now they can sleep in it. thankyou for proving my point , the history of the great lakes is basically , great fishery , and another invasive moves in and we spend decades adjusting to it , fishery gets great and you guessed it another invasive maybe not a dam just pumping stations at the point closest to a reservoir it should start where the demand is and work out not start far out and work in point being people see water on a map and think oh man untapped resource it can handle it but there is so much more to every water way and fishery
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Re: Water restrictions
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Umm, that is a ridiculous idea to dam all the west coast rivers. You trying to kill off all the steelhead and salmon? Here in ID we're barely meeting brood stock requirements as is, and building more dams would be the final nail in the coffin. I could care less if the idiots in CA stay thirsty, they made their bed now they can sleep in it. So far I think your safe but I sure will not rule out the possibility of that happening.
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Re: Water restrictions
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Steve Martin said it best -
"California is brain dead "
"Turn off the water and everything dies "
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Re: Water restrictions
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Tapping into the Great Lakes might solve one problem but only promote the expansion of invasive species.
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Re: Water restrictions
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First thing Cali did was to cut off the farmers they have it all figured out like always. LOL morons
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Re: Water restrictions
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All the states and Ontario have a pact betwixt themselves....NO water leaves the Great Lakes Basin without they all ok it. What are the chances of that? Slim-to-none. The day will come when a shooting war will be fought over the freshwater in the Great Lakes. It is likely in the not too distant future. We are lucky as heck in this area, we have water galore. It wouldn't take much to change all that. A few years with drought and it could all go away. About 20 years ago we had a spell of drouthy weather.......lakes dropped to lows like none of us had ever seen. The rivers and streams were trickles in places.......that was just through a dry spell, what if those spells turn into 3-4 years, or a decade or two? Our aquafers and water tables will drop in a big way. Maybe it won't happen, but it wasn't that long ago that the southern Great Plains dried up to the point that a huge population shift happened. Nothing stays the same for ever.......ask the folks that used to be commercial fishermen on the Aral Sea!
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