The "New World Order." The latest boogyman for the right to wail over.

Mark, you can do better.

Jim

Speaking of

Morning y'all. Donna and I are back in Michigan for the weekend convention and the fishing this week was awesome.

Interesting thread from the many posts. I post on the NWO and one compadre from MI accuses me of preaching crap. I'd say the NWO has always been a religion but it's polar opposite of one I'd place faith in and if this poster's suggestion is that us trappers should only be/walk/talk/type trapping, I'm kind of a multi-species guy = humans and animals. . I can hunt, fish & trap and I can worship God, and it's a shame in 2021 that what was handed to us from our ancestors has been tossed out. Hunting. Fishing. Trapping. Patriotism. God. You name it, culture is tossing it. Fast as they can. Not only tossing God and country but replacing it with the 21st century version of woke wonderment. Anything before 2000 is deemed old and obsolete including the people.
That was the point of this post. The NWO.

My post wasn't meant to be "Christian" religion but rather that very powerful people are steering cultures. It has always happened. It is happening still. The fact that some don't believe it, doesn't make it not true. Just means people don't know much beyond their visible path. In fact, people throughout history are best led by being focused on a local theme while being kept in the dark about the big picture by those in power who focus on a grand scale. And the NWO is the grandest scale on earth = all of it.

I didn't predict an outcome for the NWO but the James among us have always been blind to the cultural steering around us. Round and round it goes, where it stops nobody knows but some with a whole pile of resources are at a helm trying to steer "us." And our nation. Only the blind cannot see a change in the woke, cooperating nature of more and more people in our land who are celebrated as they go along to get along. The dissidents (folks like me and mine) are more and more being marginalized at every turn. You know, us gun toting, God fearing, country bumpkin folk. We're not labeled as just plain dumb anymore. The stakes have been raised by those at the helm of MSM and more. Now me and mine are labeled as nonconforming dissidents in the new America where conforming to alphabet immorality, masks, vaxs x how many doses, deviance, and more is called the "new normal." Me and mine are being brought to heal more and more and compliance is the new standard.

Compliance is a core goal of the NWO but I never cared for the bullies in grade school and I don't care for them much now.

And I prefer to trap, hunt, fish, and fear the Lord so call me whatever you deem fit.
Plus, I think "argument" in the historical sense (back and forth dialog) is a really good thing where we use our noodles.
It's called critical thinking and it's not taught or done much anymore in our land.
It's been replaced by culture and some Tman'ers with criticism.

Blessings,
Mark

You're my Tman stalker danny. Not sure why. I post. You can't bear it, must post right away, and typically get personal.
Seems you're trying to put me in your box and I refuse so out come the insults.
Again.
Critical thinking not your cup of tea?

Here's the other group I couldn't think of last night. They say....we're not after a one world gov't, but not far from it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilderberg_meeting

You keep right on a truckin' Mr. Disingenuous..

Have you not been paying attention?

I'm thinking Mark has been in the trenches and hasn't forgotten where he came from. We have all seen rights disappear. The first magic trick is to get states to change rights to privileges. It doesn't take all states, just the ones with the masses. The lawyers will tell you, you have no rights they are privileges. Surely right to life would be a major one that went out the window, where was the lawyers then? Next pick off rights as you come to them. The right to work and keep some of what you acquire. The right to a free market to sell what one produces and the right to buy the goods you need for production.
The right to keep and bear a way to defend your family and property. Yes property is a right to be defended because it feeds your family. Moving the property lines was an offense punishable by death in the old days. And the boundary lines in this country have not been inching over but been heaved over by the yards.
So while the subject of the World Order is a big one and needs some thinkers to get outside the box. It won't be won by hiding ones head in the sand and just hoping it will go away. Its not for the fainthearted. Send the old and sick home to take care or the stuff. Wonder if Cyrus had any naysayers when he said he was going to dry up the Euphrates by diverting it from Babylon to gain entry.
One can only nip at the enemies heels and try to patch up the little holes for so long. You never get a head before it breaks out again. The New World Order can't be beat with the old tactics. One way is to educate people by taking the knowledge to the people. God has always done that thru out history. People would rather slumber a little more than be ready. Any time we stand for right its going to cost us. Perhaps a better question is what will it cost if we do nothing ?

I wish to clarify some of what was said by me. I like Mark, I like what Mark has done and continues to do for trapping and the outdoors as a whole. I grew up wanting to be like him, he is a good trapper, from Michigan and has great success in my favorite past time. What I said about Mark, is something I would say to my brother, and or father. This NWO stuff that I keep reading about, is nothing more than fear mongering. The idea that a world is trying to become one is ridiculous, the greatest country in the world, that being the USA for those that are confused, can’t even majorly agree on one candidate and it isn’t much different in any other country. I know many people on both sides of the aisle that feel when they vote it’s the lesser of two evils. So to think that there is this group that is going to bring everyone ‘in line’ is ridiculous.

Mark stated, “Compliance is a core goal of the NWO but I never cared for the bullies in grade school and I don't care for them much now.” I guess this statement is a matter of perspective, as is much in life…bullies to me are the ones that do not comply.

I like hearing people talk about what is going on in other countries, they most likely have never even been out of the country or across this country to know what is really going on, only what is fed to them by their favorite media outlet. Most everyone needs to spend a heck of a lot less time on the internet and watching tv, we would all be better off. The world is not out to get you.

Keep in mind you do not learn much when you sit in a room with everyone that agrees with you. You learn a lot more by listening and reading than talking and speaking.😀

Have great day everyone, and I mean that.

Only thing I know this country is now out of order.

I do not disagree with you to a certain extent, but when was it in order? I do not think it is as crazy different as it ever was, just we see it more and people are expressing their true thoughts. And now everyone has an equal platform, good or bad.

Ill completely disagree that's its nothing but fear mongering. Its right in front of you if you open your eyes.
From NATO to the central bank to the EU.

Read about the Bilderberg club I posted a link to. Its world leaders to manufacturing CEO's and banking CEO's meeting to determine how you'll be governed.

I think you're not really watching. There is something big going on. Its been a slow process for a long time and now increased velocity. You will see. We all will. Some already do.

I don't necessarily disagree with the doctrine of election, but it IS confusing to me. The New Testament is full of verses about the need of people to "accept" Christ. For example, Revelation 3:20... "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me." That certainly makes it sound as though people have a choice of whether or not to accept Christ. Or John 1:12 "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God" Jesus himself on many occasions urged people to pray in his name and to ask, repetitiously, for whatever it is they want. Such as John 15:7 "If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you." Or Mark 11:24 "Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours."

So I don't know, but it certainly sounds to me that people have the option of accepting God, or not. And also that God can, in a way, be summoned, through prayer.

Boys think they are girls(and too many more things too list).....????I don't know how old you are but in my 40+ years it looks like this country has fallen off the tracks completely
Another huge difference is the lack of value put on truth especially in the educational world

What rock have you been living under. Might want to turn off the CNN.

I bet your don't think there was no election fraud either. And Biden got the most votes in history. lol

I think you just made my points for me.

What point is that . That you are clueless ?

I don't necessarily disagree with the doctrine of election, but it IS confusing to me. The New Testament is full of verses about the need of people to "accept" Christ. For example, Revelation 3:20... "Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me." That certainly makes it sound as though people have a choice of whether or not to accept Christ. Or John 1:12 "But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God" Jesus himself on many occasions urged people to pray in his name and to ask, repetitiously, for whatever it is they want. Such as John 15:7 "If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you." Or Mark 11:24 "Therefore I tell you, whatever you ask in prayer, believe that you have received it, and it will be yours."

So I don't know, but it certainly sounds to me that people have the option of accepting God, or not. And also that God can, in a way, be summoned, through prayer.

Angela: The part you may not be understanding is that to a Calvinist all those verses you mentioned above is only talking to what they refer to as elect. They will tell you that God is a loving God to all mankind. Only He loves 2 different kinds of love. The first love is the love He has for His elect. He takes care of them all their lives and then takes them to Heaven. Then there is the love in which He takes care of the lost all their lives in a loving way til the end of 70 years or so, then sends them to the fiery dungeon for eternity by default., since they are not the elect. The Calvinists think Jesus only died for the elect. Not all in their congregations belief that, but the hardcore ones do.
They think the predestined go to Heaven and all the others by default or double predestined do not. They are in a type of secret group that try to lose you in the Greek, they are in their own secret elect group and not part of the Great Commission.
Does God use them for His purpose ? Yes, just as he did the Babylonians and the Assyrians.

Used to know an old fellow that said a lot of people would miss Heaven by 14-18 inches. Thats the distance between the heart and the brain. Heart knowledge trumps the brain knowledge.

Those that go to the fiery furnace do so by their own choice. Pharaoh and Essau were driven by their own evil, hardening their hearts. Essau sold his birthright for one pitiful meal, by choice.

Romans 9 King James Version

1 I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,

2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises;

5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.

6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.

8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.

9 For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son.

10 And not only this; but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac;

11 (For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;)

12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.

13 As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.

14 What shall we say then? Is there unrighteousness with God? God forbid.

15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.

16 So then it is not of him that willeth, nor of him that runneth, but of God that sheweth mercy.

17 For the scripture saith unto Pharaoh, Even for this same purpose have I raised thee up, that I might shew my power in thee, and that my name might be declared throughout all the earth.

18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.

19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?

20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

24 Even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?