Re: should election day be a day off ?
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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08/21/21 08:19 PM
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Pete, I get what you're saying, but how do we stop the electronic software fraud? any system hooked to the internet can not be trusted software updates by cd only certification of machines with a test procedure that requires the system be disconnected physically from the outside network and any mac address on the network not registered to the system or it's voting stations causes the entire system to and go into alarm ,possibly fiber connections between stations and server. we use it for secure military comms for a reason if they ring is broken we you know , there is no way to enter the ring without breaking it. in addition every vote gets printed , the person verifies the print out is what they want then it is scanned by the counter every batch gets sealed with a results sheet for that batch then sealed in a box , so that we actually have a chain of custody on every ballot. for military set up on base voting , and allow early in person voting with every ballot being placed in a sealed container and verified the lock and seal not broken by 3 people again maintain chain of custody the low tech systems are easily secured multi person observation and a sealed ballot container with chain of custody it can be done but people have to want it and staff it
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
[Re: Sprung & Rusty]
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08/21/21 10:37 PM
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3.5 million truck drivers. Many couldn't vote because they are over the road. Many people cannot be home and or cannot get off work that day. How about the military? Salesmen? FAIR??? It's called absentee ballot. Apparently you haven't read what this thread is about. just
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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08/22/21 02:00 AM
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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Sprung and rusty is right ya know. Even before all these extra days were added the last few elections, all you needed to do was vote absentee if you were not going to be present on election day. Correct. If you "can't" vote now you're not even trying.
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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08/22/21 11:27 AM
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I saw something on a CA waterfowl forum this morning that is amazing. On the recall ballot for Newsom, you first color in a circle for either yes or no for the recall. Then you vote for your choice of candidates.
On the outside of the envelope there is a box to sign, and to the right and left of the box there are two holes about 3/8" in diameter. If you put your ballot in the envelope, (larger than a normal one), like most folks would, your "yes" vote is visible through one of the two holes. If you voted against the recall, you see nothing through the other hole. Imagine how many of those envelopes will end up in the dumpster. The holes serve no other purpose.
I remember an important election twenty years or so ago in SF, and days later, fishermen found full ballot boxes floating in the bay. They even showed them on TV and nothing happened.
1. Show ID to vote 2. Ballot goes into a locked container with witnesses 3. Ballots tallied by hand with observers
I remember after he was president, Jimmy Carter went somewhere in Africa to ensure a legal election process. Maybe we need somebody from Botswana or Chad to help us with ours. 2022 is going to be big.
Pete
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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08/22/21 11:32 AM
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Reading comprehension isn't his strong suit.
Jim Remember Jimmy the Greek, the sports commentator? You'll be remembered as Jimmy the tick. Bahahaha.
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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08/22/21 11:34 AM
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AKAjust...no, election day should not be a day off work, unless one chooses to miss work on their own.
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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08/22/21 03:28 PM
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Why would you buy someone's vote by giving them the day off with pay. You may as well tell them the only way they get paid is to vote for a particular party then!
That's all the Democrat party does is promise that "We'll" give you something if you vote for our party. In return that they win! Promises, promises, promises.
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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08/22/21 04:26 PM
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Jim Remember Jimmy the Greek, the sports commentator? You'll be remembered as Jimmy the tick. Bahahaha. If you left, you wouldn't be remembered at all. I've seen guys like you come and go over the years, and no one remembers who they are anymore. Jim
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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No.
Used to down in Mexico the voting for President would be a two day deal on Friday and Saturday with bars and liquor stores closed during voting hours. I think the hours were 7 AM to 10 PM on both days.
Sit on your horse on top of a ridge, look out across the country and tell me there is no God.
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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I am in for multiple days of voting , IF and only IF
a volunteer for every candidate is watching the sealed every ballot box 24/7
you want to be on the ballot you need a volunteer or group of volunteers to be on the ballot observation staffing
if you trust people you could have one volunteer could represent more than one candidate but no fewer than 3 people watching the box from the time the first ballot enters the box till the count is complete and ballots with results sheets clearly showing , batch number , total ballots and count of each candidate on the ballots results are sealed in clear plastic bags with serialized tamper seals. and moved to a locked and seal secured space for storage and those people must be selected by the candidates
if you don't have enough people who will volunteer for you how will you ever get enough votes ?
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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08/22/21 05:46 PM
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Reading comprehension isn't his strong suit.
Jim Yeah maybe, but is truth your strong suit?
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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All of you guys demanding consistency in elections: Do you want the feds taking over the power over elections from the states/
Jim No, we need to prevent that.
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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All of you guys demanding consistency in elections: Do you want the feds taking over the power over elections from the states/
Jim No, we need to prevent that. the only people worse for elections than the people who ran the 2020 elections would be the FED they can't seem to get anything right. we need MORE involvement in the election process not less the problem IS how little involvement there is , a few key people in an election collection and count CAN change the outcome of an election.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: should election day be a day off ?
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08/23/21 01:11 AM
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What if Ohio wants to allow mail-in votes, and Virginia says in-person only? That's the system we have now. Each state makes its own rules. It leads to inconsistent rules.
The only way I know of to achieve consistency is for the feds to set the rules. Not a desirable result, imho.
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