It has been my experience if I wanted to vote I could find a way. Stay up a bit later or get out of bed a little earlier. I see NO need for another day off. Absentee ballots were made to give folks a way to vote if couldn't do it in person. Too bad it is being abused.

Really?

I guess if wanting to know who is voting, limiting.

Isn't any job that a person holds and uses to pay bills essential? Essential is a made up term just like "assault"
weapon. Who has the right to deem any job as essential or not essential? People always want to play the victim card. There is always a way to get it done without having more time off work.

Well we agree there.
just

yes and no

jobs that most people think of as essential
DR
Nurse
Paramedic
cop
fireman

these all tend to also have 10-12 hour shifts so could easily keep a person from getting to the poll before or after their shift.


I want to be clear I do not think the answer is absentee mail in type voting , this country will fall apart if we do not secure in everyone's mind that only citizens are voting , no one is voting twice , that every vote cast is reaching the count and that the count is accurate.

WE know for a fact that the count is not accurate or recounts would never turn up more or less votes , the data is there our counts are not accurate in some places.
they squabble about is any one place off by enough to change a result
but FACT is the count is not accurate it changed on the recount.

would you count money and recount it and get a different number and then not recount until you had the same each time sure of the actual amount?

chain of custody of every ballot must be established and maintained

many of the states have requirements for chain of custody , how counts are to be handled and they were not following their own laws

observers trained in that states law need to be a part of the election from ID to final count and every law needs to be followed exactly.

jobs you didn't think of as essential that still are

sewage treatment plant operator
garbage man
the list gets very very long and I am on it , I do however find a way to get over and vote , I have had a few times when it didn't look like I was going to make it but managed to get there in the last hour

for that reason I took part in person voting early last election.

maybe not a holiday , a week of in person early voting maybe weeks of in person early voting , still maintaining that early voting ballot box seal and security. the voter needs to be the one placing it in the box and no one should be able to touch it till the day of the count.

We could hire enough people to watch every ballot from the moment it's registered until counting, and then afterward in case of a recount.

How much money do we want to spend on ballot security? Whatever it will cost, better security will cost taxpayers more.

Jim

Or just have voter ID. That would cut back on a lot of Voter fraud saving the tax payer money.

By all means, write to the legislators in your state telling them to support voter ID.

Jim

NC Legislator's passed voter ID, Gov. Cooper vetoed it, voters voted on it and passed, some panty-waste judge shot it down.

I don't understand the objections to voter ID. It seems to me that if you can't be bothered to get an ID, you must not want to vote very badly.

Jim

I always enjoyed the days that went as follows.

noon: Socialist Sally is ahead of the Republican by 25 percent

3:00 Socialist Sally is ahead by 37% She is predicted to win it all.

5:00 All of the Republicans get off of work.

6:00 Socialist Sally is losing ground. Still predicted to win.

8:00 Socialist Sally is behind by 25%. Democrats are calling for a recount already.

11PM Socialist Sally loses election, massive fraud accusations by democrats.

Should be a day off for people to get a photo ID, then stop complaining.

They already have them
How you think they cash that stimmy check
Come on man

Jim,
You're sounding more rational every day. atta boy!

We have spent trillions trying to keep the economy running and persons on UE etc. etc., From the start this was not in my opinion the best way. We could have been splitting those funds with recipients, landlords, business owners along with job training, day care etc. etc. There would have been several ways to train workers and live within whatever limitations were set. As to voter ID I am all for it We could get a voter citizen ID for every eligible voter in the USA. We could hirer temps like for the Census and get this done and settle this who is legal illegal etc. There are many forms of ID that could be used and some could be more permanent or invasive then others but we should just spend the billions and get this behind us. We had about 160 million voters last presidential election with roughly 230-235 million eligible voters. Our democracy would be more vibrant if we found ways to have more citizens vote.

Bryce

C'Mon, Jim!

You know full well what the real objections are to voter ID laws...have the guts to say it out loud!

(I double dog DARE you!)

I work an "Essential job". I generate electricity. 12 hour swing shift either 6a-6p or the other way around. I also work an hour from home. I have always found time to vote in person as it is that important to me.

I really don't understand voter ID problems. In my township I have always been asked for my ID to receive my ballot. They check it against a list of township residents. I guess I figured all did this.

I've never been asked for my Id, probably because the gals that work our poll know me...and most who live in this township.

Its the cities where the elections are manipulated.

Well we need to resolve the issue as soon as we can as the population is becoming more urbanized every day. With 330 million plus a minus a couple we now have nearly 85% of those in designated urban and urban metro areas. The senate with 2 per state offers great advantage to smaller and rural states. If we keep the house at 435 members and say by 2050 we have the anticipated 440-450 million there will be a lot of states with 1 one house member and many with 2 or 3. Today 50 of the senators in the USA which is 50% come from states with with less then 55 million which is about 17% and that will continue to decline over time.

Bryce

very little and we don't want to hire it out.

you just can't buy the integrity of having each candidate supply observers.

where are you going to hire competent people for one day.or a few days.

I am not sure I trust whoever the temp agency sends over that day. I want people who have a vested interest in the community taking a day off their regular job to watch the vote and I want enough that are from different parties and candidates that I am sure because they have shared differences they will keep it 100% fair and secure.

WE NEED AN ELECTION THAT REGAINS THE TRUST OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. 2020 wasn't it , 2020 brought so much into question , mail in ballots not folded. ballots that appeared after counting was closed for the night , ballots that came from suit cases under tables.

THE INTEGRITY WAS LOST.