I speak from experience. The world can get very dark in your own mind. Suicide isnt painless, and it would t end the pain. It only transfers it to others. In my case it would destroy my wife and kids.

I went to a therapist. He could not prescribe drugs. Only talk. I also went to my longtime general practitioner Dr. He prescribed me zoloft or the generic name sertraline. DON'T EVER TRYTO STOP TAKING IT COLD TURKEY OR MISS MORE THAN 2 DAYS IN A ROW. It cant really mess up your thinking. Both the therapist and Dr. Belped as well as my friends and family. Dont suffer yourself. I found out that over 50% of the people I know are on antidepressants.

The therapist and dr both asked about guns. I lied to the therapists but not to my dr. My dr already knew. He told me he is mandated by the government and said it's none of their business and didnt fill the form out.

Tell the VA drs that you sold all your guns next time and get that on record.

Get help and dont stop. You have already taken the 1st step.

We all love you here and would miss you.

Wolfie, you ain't the only one who goes through rough patches.
"Moose hunting is good. Thinking about moose hunting is good."
I repeated this mantra 3 times and I already feel better.
boco is a fricking genius.
That will get you through a day at a time, but getting the opinion of a professional is a good idea.
Keep us posted brother. Maybe once you get all your ducks in a row, you can come in here and fix the 20,000 or so of us on this site that need some help.

You ain't the only one man. I struggle daily with stuff. ADHD ADD and ODD is what I have and it's quite the combo. I take antidepressants and other medications daily, I also take medication that helps me sleep and be able to fall back asleep if I wake up at night.

Nobody chooses to have this stuff, it's never easy.

If you think you need help get help. Your guns are not as important as you are. Most likely, the only time that they would try to take your guns is if they see you as a threat to yourself or others. Around 20% of Americans will deal with depression and that's just the tip of the mental health iceberg. Obviously most people don't lose their guns over mental illness.

If you have to do any unpleasant tasks, do them as soon as possible. That way you don't waste time and stress worrying about doing them as you keep pushing them off.

Do tasks you can accomplish and see the positive results of.

Don't waste time or energy worrying about things you can't change.

Don't worry about things that might not even happen.

Don't second guess yourself or worry about what you could of done differently.

Be grateful and thankful for what you have. Thanking God for the good things in your life makes you feel better. There's always more good then bad in the world.

Just look up at the sky every once in a while and appreciate it.

Help other people. You'll feel better about yourself. People need to be needed.

You're very good at making instructional videos and figuring out ways to improve things. Make some videos to share on Trapperman.

Teach some kids or other people who are interested in trapping or metal work.

Know that lots of people are rooting for you.

Keith

Prayer can help. These 2 prayers are useful when going through hard times. Especially if you think about the meaning and apply it to yourself. Laying still and thoughtfully talking to God is good for your mental health. I know I come across as a bit nonbeliever, when it comes to Christianity, but I have no doubt in God's existence. Even if you can't believe just working it out in your mind helps greatly.

Serenity Prayer

God, grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change,
courage to change the things I can,
and wisdom to know the difference.

Peace Prayer of Saint Francis

Lord, make me an instrument of your peace:
where there is hatred, let me sow love;
where there is injury, pardon;
where there is doubt, faith;
where there is despair, hope;
where there is darkness, light;
where there is sadness, joy.

O divine Master, grant that I may not so much seek
to be consoled as to console,
to be understood as to understand,
to be loved as to love.
For it is in giving that we receive,
it is in pardoning that we are pardoned,
and it is in dying that we are born to eternal life.
Amen.

Keith

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Wish the best for you and I hope you get things sorted out so you feel better.

go ahead and get help

if that means you take all your guns to your dads for a while so you can say to them "I had a gun but gave it to my dad to keep till I get this resolved" , do it

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yes. Get some help if you need it.

Prayers to you young man. You already took the first step. Admitting you have a problem and reaching out for help. Real men seek help. Praying for you. My 2 cents. Start with a private medical doctor

Thank you for all the kind words and encouragement everyone, sorry I haven't responded to eveyones pms yet.... just kind hard to put words to some of the feeling have towards how kind y'all are being. I'll try to respond to everyone by tomorrow.
Thanks again
God Bless yall

Kinda coming off of what GC Pete said there. But, I've had my ups and downs along the way. Ever felt it was coming on top of me? I'd hand the keys to my guns over to a trusted friend.

That way, I still had the legally required custody of my own registered firearms. He'd never need worry about being found in possession of guns not licenced to him.

From your perspective? It gives you the absolute right to look Anyone dead in the eye and clearly state: " No, sir. I don't have access to any guns. "

Do you have cancer ?
Are you blind ?
Are you missing an arm ?
Are you missing a leg ?
Are you a paraplegic ?
Are you a quadriplegic?
Have you been severely burned all over your body ?
Are you homeless?
Were you molested and abused as a child ?

Sometimes it helps to think of how much worse hands others in this world have been dealt to realize things aren't going so bad for us. Just remember there's people out there that love you and things will get better.

So finally went in today and asked about seeing someone, next thing you know I'm with a social worker
Currently sitting in the ER for a evaluation and parents are taking all the guns out of my house. Soo yeah..

I sincerely hope you can find a road back.

I went through a real dark spell when I was a young guy, I guess I was I my early twenties. Darkest period of my life. I was there for months and finally came out of it and have never suffered from it again.

You do seem like one of the most balanced guys here. Fight it.

Hang in there, Wolfdog. We are all pulling for you.

One other thing and I'll leave it alone. The enemy of your soul whispers thoughts in your head. He whispers similar thoughts in my head, he whispers thoughts to all of us. He knows precisely where to attack and he is merciless, he seeks to destroy you. You'll find yourself making arguments and counterarguments as to why your situation is entirely unique. Don't own the thoughts, they are not yours until you take and run with them. Even then you can repudiate them.

There's an old saying...you can't keep a bird from landing in your hair but you can keep it from building a nest in it.

glad your going to get help

to many vets not getting the help they should