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Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7406213
11/16/21 12:49 AM
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When you put years of time into "friends," helping with all their work, cutting
their firewood, pouring and finishing their concrete, insulating
their barns, tearing out walls, and you cant find those same
"friends" when you have a project, it's a bummer, to say the least.

Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7406214
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Maybe his message is applicable?


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Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7406215
11/16/21 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by furstroker
When you put years of time into "friends," helping with all their work, cutting
their firewood, pouring and finishing their concrete, insulating
their barns, tearing out walls, and you cant find those same
"friends" when you have a project, it's a bummer, to say the least.


Users maybe ? Are they worth keeping in your life ?

There are guys just like you out there , prolly more Worthy of your friendship . The good Lord will help you find them if you ask him


The Vink for chief moderator....night shift ...11pm- 5am best coast time zone.....Free Marty


Re: Fathers [Re: grumley701] #7406216
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I couldnt listen to that, but i appreciate the effort. I have a great life outside
of my loneliness. Most of you would bootstomp me if you saw my setup.
I just want to share what I have with someone who would care.
My sweet wife has her own health issues and career, until the mandate kicks in...unless she
can get her exemption through. Then more issues.

Re: Fathers [Re: AntiGov] #7406217
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Originally Posted by AntiGov
Originally Posted by furstroker
When you put years of time into "friends," helping with all their work, cutting
their firewood, pouring and finishing their concrete, insulating
their barns, tearing out walls, and you cant find those same
"friends" when you have a project, it's a bummer, to say the least.


Users maybe ? Are they worth keeping in your life ?

There are guys just like you out there , prolly more Worthy of your friendship . The good Lord will help you find them if you ask him


Ive been done with them for years, but it's hard to find new friends.
I gave a lot of years to those jackals. It was my own lonely stupidity.
It's weird here ...in NWPA.

Last edited by furstroker; 11/16/21 01:23 AM. Reason: Clarification of area
Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7406221
11/16/21 01:27 AM
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Sounds like you got your stuff together and have people counting on you . Gotta be proud as he LL for that . I gotta hit the hay , have a good night . Talk to you tomorrow

My dang phone is about to die

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Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7406233
11/16/21 03:18 AM
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Furstroker, I had some sympathy for you (despite your attacks), until you jumped on Mark, who was only offering advice.

If you don't want advice from other folks, don't make public posts that seem to ask for it.

Jim


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Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7406237
11/16/21 03:35 AM
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There are lots of users out there. Friends are those you can call at 3a.m on xmas eve and thet show asap. I have done just that. There are people like me out there but they are far between. I dont have many friends but had several users.

Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7406275
11/16/21 06:03 AM
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Sounds to me like you are running away from the one thing that can give you peace. I see it all the time at Adult & Teen Challenge, people try on their own to change from the bad habits and patterns they learned growing up. They drive their whole life off into the ditch, usually running away from God, until they finally come to the end of their rope either by personal choice or by being forced through legal means.

Seeing people's lives transformed by accepting the love of the God they once hated is one of the greatest pleasures of my life today. Peace to you.

Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7414796
11/25/21 08:40 PM
11/25/21 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by furstroker
Thank you all. Took me until today to read it....

Originally Posted by Mark June
It has been suggested to "be the change you want to see," because we can't control others but we can only control ourselves.

In my role as hospital chaplain I often see people bringing their junk and loading it on other people.
Every 2 or 3 generations it seems one person rises above the family junk and says "no more."
And then that person's kids find new junk to bring and toss around and the cycle begins again.
Fascinating to witness.


So, Mr. Preacher...tell me about my "junk." In your Godly wisdom, you sure
seem awfully ignorant. It's really easy to sit on your own pedestal and cast
arrows at those who not only rose above, but those who DON'T have anyone to
talk to other than internet fools. Did i put anything on anyone, or did i ask for
anything other than words...No, i did not.
Dont you dare lump my family in with anything else ive said.
Nothing wrong there, but it seems you cant identify with anything other
than rainbows and butterflies.
Seems fake to me.


Catching up on a bit of Tman after trapping some coyotes.
I was not in any way aiming the comments of what I see in my pastoral care role in many people>>>>>> at the OP.
Sorry if that was the internet context.
It was not why I typed it.

Blessings,
Mark

Re: Fathers [Re: ] #7414828
11/25/21 09:41 PM
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I misread and misinterpret all the time. Im embarassed at this as well as others ive posted.
I look for some kind of negative that isnt there. My parents used to fight really mean, and it seems
like it comes out in me and one of my sisters. It's disgusting. I always feel like crap afterwards, for days/weeks.
I drink, too much, and anger post. Excessive beer brings my demons out. Alcoholism is a sob,
but i cant quit it just yet. I need to better fill my time more constructively.
Thank you to all that replied, even to my crap.
My internet trapperman persona has attained white-trash level, and i despise myself for it.
Sorry Mr. June and all others...im a putz, to put it mildly.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7414840
11/25/21 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by furstroker
I misread and misinterpret all the time. Im embarassed at this as well as others ive posted.
I look for some kind of negative that isnt there. My parents used to fight really mean, and it seems
like it comes out in me and one of my sisters. It's disgusting. I always feel like crap afterwards, for days/weeks.
I drink, too much, and anger post. Excessive beer brings my demons out. Alcoholism is a sob,
but i cant quit it just yet. I need to better fill my time more constructively.
Thank you to all that replied, even to my crap.
My internet trapperman persona has attained white-trash level, and i despise myself for it.
Sorry Mr. June and all others...im a putz, to put it mildly.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.




Don't beat yourself up over it , we all make mistakes ......keep moving forward for the better , and happy Thanksgiving to you


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Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7414843
11/25/21 09:56 PM
11/25/21 09:56 PM

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Furstroker,
We all do the best we can with what we have where we're at.... on our best days. And every day isn't always our best, that's for sure laugh
You're passionate about the situation and you speak about fights in your family and anger. You're reflective on it all and that's a good start.
Anger is not a cause, it's a symptom... often of trauma, or grief, loss, or a host of other things.
Anger softens to frustration and then hopefully to something far less if the root issue is figured out and resolved (in some fashion).
Food for thought from someone who has been trained in this area.

Happy Thanksgiving to you also.
Blessings,
Mark

Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7414859
11/25/21 10:26 PM
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Furstoker you sound a bit like my Dad. At his core a good man, but sometimes it was hard to see. He tried to separate the dark side of his life from us kids, but with mixed results. Sadly, he passed at a relatively young age and not at peace. I believe alcoholism was the root cause that he could have solved, but chose not to.

Mark June, you have earned my respect and admiration over the years for your inputs. Both in their insight and tone. Brotherly love. Keep it up.

Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7414860
11/25/21 10:29 PM
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It sounds like you have some things figured out, try and do your best every day, that's all any of us can do. God Bless

Re: Fathers [Re: 30/06] #7414871
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My Dad passed at 60, from cancer, that he never tried to fight off. Alcoholic chain-smoker.
My parents divorced when I was a soph at Pitt. 22 years ago or so. He died shortly after my football "career", probably 16-17 yrs or so ago. The dates arent right im sure.
And it makes me sad i cant remember the dates. I know it was hard on him with my mom nagging, and my
wild sisters when i left.
They were rough.
I wonder if I had tried harder to connect with him, if things would have been different?
Would he be here to see what Ive accomplished? Would he care? Id like to think he'd be impressed with
what ive learned over the years...but who knows?
I miss my dysfunctional Dad daily and feel guilty that i wasnt there for him.

Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7414887
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We need to surrender and leave our egos at the door and walk into the room of acceptance. Acceptance can be an SOB but it is needed to get right with ourselves and the world. Believing in a higher power and finding people that have empathy instead of sympathy is critical in enjoying and living life. That does not mean one becomes a "door mat", but we sure don't need all the rest of the world "renting space in my head" for nothing.

Bryce

Re: Fathers [Re: bblwi] #7414896
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You folks are the some of the wisest and kindest of all people on earth. Once again, id like to reiterate my
embarrassment for my foolishness/callousness in posts.
God Bless you all...and all ive been a richard-cranium to...

Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7414907
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My Mom told me once, just after a real knocking around by my Dad in a locked bedroom. "You gotta Love your Father...not what he does to us, but Love your Father." I was headed through the living room with a loaded rifle to Stop the Fight. She saved all of us a mess by getting out before I kicked their BR.door in.

I Love my 82 year old Dad Now....he asked forgiveness for the 70's & 80's and He and I stay on subjects that are Good. Hunting, Grandkids, etc.

Thank God for His Mercy!


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Re: Fathers [Re: furstroker] #7414931
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Furstrocker...there's a hole in every man's heart.
We try to fill it with all life has to offer. But there's only
1 thing that will fill it. JESUS CHRIST. And HE will do it for free,
all we have to do is accept it. When HE knocks on your hearts door
open it up and invite HIM in and HE will fill the void that's there. Life
is not always a bed of roses, but HE will be there through it all. We will still
fell HIM everyday, but HE will be there to pick us up. HE said, " I will never leave
you or forsake you" and HE never has. Prayers from Va.


Donnie

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