Re: Ever think term limits
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We aren't going to get term limits on congress or senators , but it needs to be a decision by the people to be done with some of these Politian's who say much do nothing and the district suffers.
unfortunately most people are just not that involved
we have had difficulty even finding people for town council
people are busy making a living and living , 10 hours a month in meetings , well who wouldn't rather 10 hours of fishing a month
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Re: Ever think term limits
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Finster, I know there were the heads of some agencies he could have replaced when they would drag their feet implementing his policies. Those new department heads could in turn replace people that were obstructing what the boss wanted. Remove people as far down the ladder as needed, down to the receptionist if warranted and have the department head hire people that will implement the policies the President wants.
I think Trump badly under estimated the people in a position to affect his ability to change the policies and replace them with peoples that had the same goals as the President. I agree he could have replaced more people. However, he replaced a lot. Still not seeing how this has anything to do with term limits? Far as I'm concerned, we need to get rid of career politicians. It does nothing but breed corruption. The founding fathers missed this one. I suspect because they never saw the positions as overly powerful because of the sheer numbers. Back in the day, being in congress was almost like jury duty. I don't think they figured people would stay for 40 or 50 years.
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Re: Ever think term limits
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Tough call we would all like to see term limits but what would the down sides be of it, that might be something to consider. I have seen State representatives support the voters wishes then go rogue when they no longer planned to run again. Seen the same with Governors the same thing they do good the first term then it’s all about their own legacy the last term.
Checks and balances need to be in place to benefit all concerned or corruption will still be in place maybe.
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Re: Ever think term limits
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Look around you...woke is all over the place! Some of these "old dogs" need to stay in, but I agree something should change, just not sure what it is.
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Re: Ever think term limits
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Tough call we would all like to see term limits but what would the down sides be of it, that might be something to consider. I have seen State representatives support the voters wishes then go rogue when they no longer planned to run again. Seen the same with Governors the same thing they do good the first term then it’s all about their own legacy the last term.
Checks and balances need to be in place to benefit all concerned or corruption will still be in place maybe. I think that there would be many more pros than cons. It would be a lot harder for corruption to settle with someone that can only be there 4 years rather than 40. Also, in my mind, it would be much easier for people not to go rogue since the platform they ran on would be the one they more than likely stick to rather than changing their mind throughout the decades. Obviously, it can all still happen, I just believe there would be much less of it. With limited time, a lot fewer shady backroom deals would be made since really knowing the other people (for decades) would also be a pro.
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Re: Ever think term limits
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If I were shady, I'd be more apt to "go rogue" what's to lose? Not reelection...get mine while I'm there, just sayin.
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Re: Ever think term limits
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The lobbyist will there day 1 trying to seal a 4 year deal will be a issue.
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Re: Ever think term limits
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Look around you...woke is all over the place! Some of these "old dogs" need to stay in, but I agree something should change, just not sure what it is. Name one old dog that has not been bought and paid for. Just because they have the correct letter after their name, or support the correct causes today does not make any difference. EVERY ONE OF THEM IS CORRUPT. Time to change the system.
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Re: Ever think term limits
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If you want to drain the swamp, repeal the federal income tax. Maybe that should be on the docket of a Convention of States.
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Re: Ever think term limits
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Look around you...woke is all over the place! Some of these "old dogs" need to stay in, but I agree something should change, just not sure what it is. Name one old dog that has not been bought and paid for. Just because they have the correct letter after their name, or support the correct causes today does not make any difference. EVERY ONE OF THEM IS CORRUPT. Time to change the system. What constitutes an old dog? 10 years? If so... I have a name for you.
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Re: Ever think term limits
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biggest budget in the world and as corrupt as is possible......it ain't gonna get better any time soon, quit dreamin and face reality.
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Re: Ever think term limits
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Tough call we would all like to see term limits but what would the down sides be of it, that might be something to consider. I have seen State representatives support the voters wishes then go rogue when they no longer planned to run again. Seen the same with Governors the same thing they do good the first term then it’s all about their own legacy the last term.
Checks and balances need to be in place to benefit all concerned or corruption will still be in place maybe. I think that there would be many more pros than cons. It would be a lot harder for corruption to settle with someone that can only be there 4 years rather than 40. Also, in my mind, it would be much easier for people not to go rogue since the platform they ran on would be the one they more than likely stick to rather than changing their mind throughout the decades. Obviously, it can all still happen, I just believe there would be much less of it. With limited time, a lot fewer shady backroom deals would be made since really knowing the other people (for decades) would also be a pro. As long as politicians can pick winners and losers there will be corruption. There would be a lot less corruption if the government actually had to pay for the programs they create. A sound money system would put alot of things in check
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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