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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346740
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"We need common sense abortion laws!" lol

They don't want to take away your right to an abortion just apply some restrictions.

Funny how that works for them with the 2nd Amendment?

Stay out of my gun safe and I'll stay out of your toy box. lol


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: Blaine County] #7346749
09/03/21 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
All true based on what I've read.


Making a huge difference right now for thousands who will have avoided an abortion and was born. Some day this horrible practice will be purged from those states who love life. You have reminded me of something I have known for a long time. You say you are not for abortion but defend it anyway. Lawyers rarely have a conscience. Especially liberal ones.

Answer my question counselor. LLL


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346779
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Originally Posted by LLtrapper
Originally Posted by Blaine County
All true based on what I've read.


Making a huge difference right now for thousands who will have avoided an abortion and was born. Some day this horrible practice will be purged from those states who love life. You have reminded me of something I have known for a long time. You say you are not for abortion but defend it anyway. Lawyers rarely have a conscience. Especially liberal ones.

Answer my question counselor. LLL


You do need to calm down. I addressed your comment.

Go find someone who actually cares about this topic to debate. I like babies. I don't like abortions. I do think it's awesome that you are ready to take in those thousands of babies that avoided abortion.

Maybe you can find someone to argue with on Facebook.

Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: white17] #7346799
09/03/21 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by white17
I think many of you are celebrating way too soon. SCOTUS did not rule on the constitutionality of the Texas law. Their decision was based on the fact that the plaintiffs (abortion providers) have suffered no harm because no one ......not the state and no individuals.....is enforcing this law. Consequently, the plaintiffs have no standing.

Also, if you actually read the decision, the court says ......."Federal courts enjoy the power to enjoin individuals tasked with enforcing laws, not the laws themselves." Since no one is enforcing this law.......there is no one to enjoin.

Nevertheless this law will, IMO, eventually be declared unconstitutional because it does NOT include exceptions for rape & incest...............a clear violation of both Roe & Casey.

Regardless of your position on abortion, I would think most of us would want this Texas law thrown out. It sets a precedent that will allow any citizen to sue any other person for almost any reason...........like owning a gun. It is a terrible law IMO..based solely on that possibility.

Legally you may be correct but reaction to such abortion restrictions reveals the true character of many. That's always a good thing to know when trying to discern such chateristcs of organizations or individuals.

Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346811
09/03/21 01:21 PM
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Making a huge difference right now for thousands who will have avoided an abortion and was born. Some day this horrible practice will be purged from those states who love life. You have reminded me of something I have known for a long time. You say you are not for abortion but defend it anyway. Lawyers rarely have a conscience. Especially liberal ones.

Answer my question counselor. LLL
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You do need to calm down. I addressed your comment.

Go find someone who actually cares about this topic to debate. I like babies. I don't like abortions. I do think it's awesome that you are ready to take in those thousands of babies that avoided abortion.

Maybe you can find someone to argue with on Facebook.
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Your both so hard headed, believing your so right you can't and won't even try to reason any thing out. Now go ahead an give me heck, I won't click this topic again.


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346833
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so now they go across state lines to get the abortion or go to some underground clinic

Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346849
09/03/21 02:11 PM
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I've never understood how abortion is a thing . Every argument for it falls flat.

Say you have a tooth that you want pulled . Nothing wrong with it , just don't want it. It'll take some dentist shopping to find one that'll pull a viable tooth " just because ". Let alone limbs or organs . Bizarre .


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346850
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The left will use it to rally its base, it's all they have.

Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346853
09/03/21 02:15 PM
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ND legislators are looking at the Texas law for implementation, article printed in the Bismarck tribune today.


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: Aaron Proffitt] #7346860
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Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
I've never understood how abortion is a thing . Every argument for it falls flat.

Say you have a tooth that you want pulled . Nothing wrong with it , just don't want it. It'll take some dentist shopping to find one that'll pull a viable tooth " just because ". Let alone limbs or organs . Bizarre .


"During the Holocaust, Nazis referred to Jews as rats. Hutus involved in the Rwanda genocide called Tutsis cockroaches. Slave owners throughout history considered slaves subhuman animals. In Less Than Human, David Livingstone Smith argues that it's important to define and describe dehumanization, because it's what opens the door for cruelty and genocide."

You define undesirables as not human, then it is legal to dispose of the undesirables.


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: Dirt] #7346862
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Aaron Proffitt
I've never understood how abortion is a thing . Every argument for it falls flat.

Say you have a tooth that you want pulled . Nothing wrong with it , just don't want it. It'll take some dentist shopping to find one that'll pull a viable tooth " just because ". Let alone limbs or organs . Bizarre .


"During the Holocaust, Nazis referred to Jews as rats. Hutus involved in the Rwanda genocide called Tutsis cockroaches. Slave owners throughout history considered slaves subhuman animals. In Less Than Human, David Livingstone Smith argues that it's important to define and describe dehumanization, because it's what opens the door for cruelty and genocide."

You define undesirables as not human, then it is legal to dispose of the undesirables.


I had forgotten that detail.


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346866
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"That Sanger was enamored and supported some eugenicists' ideas is certainly true," said Susan Reverby, a health care historian and professor at Wellesley College. But, Reverby added, Sanger's main argument was not eugenics — it was that "Sanger thought people should have the children they wanted."

They could get rid of the unwanted (undesirable) ones.


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346871
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I do agree that rape and bad decisions could be taken care of the next day fairly harmlessly. Incest however is another whole can of worms where the girl is scared to speak up.


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346878
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"Planned Parenthood believes that all people — of every race, religion, gender identity, ability, immigration status, and geography — are full human beings with the right to determine their own future and decide, without coercion or judgement, whether and when to have children. Margaret Sanger’s racism and belief in eugenics are in direct opposition to Planned Parenthood’s mission. Planned Parenthood denounces Margaret Sanger’s belief in eugenics. Further, Planned Parenthood denounces the history and legacy of anti-Blackness in gynecology and the reproductive rights movement, and the mistreatment that continues against Black, Indigenous, and other people of color in this country."

Apparently every age isn't one of their criteria.


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346881
09/03/21 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Spade



Your both so hard headed, believing your so right you can't and won't even try to reason any thing out. Now go ahead an give me heck, I won't click this topic again.


Who are you? laugh


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346887
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Does the father of a child ever have a say about whether the child is saved or not? I know of one instance where he did not and was rather bothered by it.


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346888
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I s'pose it won't be long now before a man can carry a baby in his beer belly. Delivery will be a real bugger though.


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346899
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"This lead to the 1911 establishment of The Eugenics Records Office (ERO) in Cold Spring Harbor, New York. The ERO spent time tracking family histories and concluded that people deemed to be unfit more often came from families that were poor, low in social standing, immigrant, and/or minority. "

"Nearly half of women who have abortions live below the federal poverty level .

A woman's right to chose, smells a lot like eugenics to me.


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346921
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There you go with the big words again..


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Re: A win for Texas Children [Re: LLtrapper] #7346925
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I looked it up. After being in Walmart today I conclude that eugenics hasn't been practiced a whole lot lately in Central Florida.


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