I donb't know. Europeans who believed the bible was bunk had to keep that hidden. saying it was all fantasy got people thrown in prison, or tortured or killed or all three.

I guess for the same reason you tell me what to believe.

So, back to this: How was slavery was justified by the Christians who practiced it? Did they believe it was sin and just pray for forgiveness every Sunday, or did they think it was ordained by God? And if they believed it was ordained by God, why is that no longer taught and is in fact unconstitutional today?

I think its a valid question considering Christian church's today are all saying we need to put Christianity into government.

Yes bowhunter it absolutely is

Your beef and your examples are with people. Not God.
But you already know that in your heart.

There's something deep in everyone's life narrative that steers them; it's called integrity.

You're chasing other people's integrity and each person can only work on our own, with or without God.

You remind us, it makes us feel better when we tear down other people's integrity instead of looking at the log in our own eye.
But orthodox Christians already realize this and do the best we can.

Thanks for the BE AWARE.

Blessings,
Mark

A lot of atrocities committed in the name of Christ were committed by people who weren't Christians. Just because someone slaps up a bible verse or a crucifix, doesn't make them a Christian.

That is illogical.
When someone talks trapping, are they telling someone to trap?

I'm sure I'll take a lot of flack for this, but I don't believe slavery is necessarily a sin. We are Americans, and as such, we cannot imagine a fate worse than loss of freedom. Freedom is everything to us; it's how we were raised, it's in our blood. Let me ask you this. Is the black child who never knew his father, and who's mother is high on crack cocaine 24/7, that has to fend for himself by stealing from the streets just to eat really better off than his 2x great grandfather who was born a slave? Sure, the slave child had to work, but he was also guaranteed a roof over his head, sufficient food, and medical care when he was ill. There are black children in America today who have no such guarantees. Many of them will spend their lives in prison, which is also a loss of freedom.

There were many horrors associated with slavery. Whippings, beatings, sexual abuse, etc. I make no excuses for anyone that treated slaves in that manner. But not everyone did. Was it sinful for a family of modest means to have one slave that served as a housekeeper/cook that was treated practically as family? I don't think so. I don't believe slavery is inherently sinful. I do believe many slaveholders committed sins in the way they treated their slaves, though.

Everybody knows there was only slavery in The United States of America.

Com’on Man!

The people that had slaves here in America are of the same party who want abortions at Will today. As to lump all Christians into one group does lead to teaching CRT which I think you are in favor of after seeing this. Danny you are simply an antagonist just as James is. You both get your kicks off of attacking Christ and his Church. You are a sorry individual and usually I would pity a fool but you and James are the exception to that.

I don't know that I've ever seen someone on here telling you what you have to believe. You are free to reject the gospel just like anyone else. No one is forcing you to convert.

Your welcome. And if my beef is with people (something I agree with you about) how can we put Christianity into government since Christianity is something different to each believer. I have no idea how many different denominations of just protestant religion there are. ALL religions are propagated by people. So maybe separation of church and state is a good thing?

A very critically thought out post. Well said.
It is often the most heinous who speak out against being heinous... in the past.
Keeps eyes off today's travesties.
Cue the BLM and 1,000 more like them.

We have enough injustices today to wallow in woulda, coulda , shoulda from yesteryear.
Each and every day I am part of the team administering (and if need be ministering) to the adolescents who try to take their own life... and it's each day, every day, more and more.....
they couldn't spell Gettysburg.
We are a nation self consumed with self-adulation who looks at anybody else but in the mirror to fix things.

And no atheistic do-good mantra stands a chance against the principalities they're fighting. Not one chance.
Proof = check out a PICU near you.



Blessings,
Mark

I dont know what CRT is. I also dont think George Washington and Thomas Jefferson thought of them selves as Democrats.

BandB, if washington and jeffersoin for example were not christians then where does this idea that we are a chrtistian nation come from?

Ang, I like the way you think. It does not answer my question though or change the fact just cause someone waves a bible around and is charismatic doesnt mean they should be blindly followed

I agree with your last question , absolutely.

thanks for proving my point about you, danny...selective outrage.

(you point out a flaw of humans practicing their version of Christianity from hundreds of years ago; while ignoring what the Taliban is doing RIGHT NOW, in practicing their religion)

CRT = Critical Race Theory

I guess I don't know what exactly your question was.

But I agree, and I am sure pretty much every Christian would also, that "just cause someone waves a bible around and is charismatic doesnt mean they should be blindly followed". There are tons of false teachers out there... the Bible warns repeatedly of them.

Danny, when can we start a thread about King Solomon and his 700 wives? Just curious, I know you like women.

It starts with a spark of a humble thanks for the revelation of creation, Jesus Christ, and God's Word.
By God's Grace alone.

Seeking better understanding of faith is only available after God's Grace.

Not before.

People been arguing about it since Abel killed his brother.
Ka-bul (Cain and Abel) is still fighting.

What's the point of the post remains my sincere question still?