AR 15 5.56 help
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I am new to these AR guns and could use some direction... One has 223 WYLDE on the barrel and I was told 5.56 ammo would work thru it? It jammed a couple times when fast firing and I could see where the firing pin barely touched the primer. I see references recommending 5.56 "NATO" ammo. Are the bullets pictured acceptable? Where is a good source for sights and accessories? I think I need a carry handle, rear sight combo like on the M 16. Any help appreciated... Thanks Dale
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Re: AR 15 5.56 help
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The Wylde is capable of shoothing both .223 and 5.56.
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Re: AR 15 5.56 help
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Buddy had the same problem I changed out the firing pin with one I had and it worked fine after that you might try stronger springs in the trigger group those military primers are harder then normal primers so they say.
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Re: AR 15 5.56 help
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Do a web search on the difference in the 5.56 and .223 round.
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Re: AR 15 5.56 help
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Buddy had the same problem I changed out the firing pin with one I had and it worked fine after that you might try stronger springs in the trigger group those military primers are harder then normal primers so they say. DiggerDale, when the military started looking for a lighter round with less recoil they first looked at the 222. (which is really a 224 caliber) the 222 would not penetrate a military helmet at 500 yards which was one of the requirements they wanted. So Remington told them they had a 222 magnum. Military said we dont want a magnum (again 224) and shot it down without asking any more questions. So they told the Army have a look at this 223 cartridge. (224 caliber) Its light, and will pass the helmet test. So the military decided the round should be 5.56 X 45 NATO. Not 10 cents difference in 223 and 5.56 NATO other than the way pressure is tested. I have been told not to shoot the NATO round in a rifle chambered 223 but I have yet to see it ever cause a problem. No one says dont shoot 223 in a rifle chambered in 5.56 NATO. FWIW a 22 hornet and a 220 swift are also 224 caliber.
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Re: AR 15 5.56 help
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The Wylde is capable of shoothing both .223 and 5.56.
So 5.56 "NATO" is just a term for 5.56? Sure. 5.56 is a lazy man's way to say 5.56x45 NATO. We can shoot .223 and 5.56 in a 5.56 AR, we can shoot those same rounds in a Wylde. I wouldn't recommend shooting 5.56 in a straight-up.223,
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Re: AR 15 5.56 help
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The wylde part refers to the chamber. I believe it has more freebore but a little tighter (the freebore part). https://www.google.com/search?q=223...&rlz=1C1GCEA_en#imgrc=yRM90h65cD2bRMCopy and paste that or just search 223 wylde chamber. There should be a drawing comparing the 5.56 nato to 223 rem and 223 wylde. For me it was on the top in the middle. EDIT: Looks like the link worked.
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As some said, strip the bolt carrier group and give it a good clean. Parts you can get at Palmetto state armory, Midway, Brownells, Numrich and a bunch of others. When ordering from Midway, Ask James how he did it and then don't do it like he did.
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5.56x45 and 5.56NATO are the same. Both are externally identical to .223 Remington.
Same deal as 9mm, 9x19, 9mm parabellum, 9mm Luger. All the same.
7.62x51 is 7.62NATO and the same as 308 Winchester though these don't have as big a pressure discrepancy as 5.56/.223. Most self loading military arms though are specced to function at just one pressure level as supplied by government ammo so civi ammo can have issues though not always.
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5.56x45 and 5.56NATO are the same. Both are externally identical to .223 Remington.
Same deal as 9mm, 9x19, 9mm parabellum, 9mm Luger. All the same.
7.62x54 is 7.62NATO and the same as 308 Winchester though these don't have as big a pressure discrepancy as 5.56/.223. Most self loading military arms though are specced to function at just one pressure level as supplied by government ammo so civi ammo can have issues though not always. Correction: 7.62 x 51 nato is .308. 7.62x54 was mosin nagant nva sniper round
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Re: AR 15 5.56 help
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5.56x45 and 5.56NATO are the same. Both are externally identical to .223 Remington.
Same deal as 9mm, 9x19, 9mm parabellum, 9mm Luger. All the same.
7.62x54 is 7.62NATO and the same as 308 Winchester though these don't have as big a pressure discrepancy as 5.56/.223. Most self loading military arms though are specced to function at just one pressure level as supplied by government ammo so civi ammo can have issues though not always. Correction: 7.62 x 51 nato is .308. 7.62x54 was mosin nagant nva sniper round You are correct, a brain fart from my days of playing around with a czarist marked mosin.
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