EHD Anyone?
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09/20/21 10:34 AM
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Has anyone else had to deal with Epizootic Hemorrhagic Disease (EHD) within their deer herd? We have it now in Oswego County NY...
~Illegitimi Non Carborundum~
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Re: EHD Anyone?
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09/20/21 10:41 AM
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Had it off and on in SW Iowa since 2012…. It’s a terrible thing; seems to take out the older age class bucks first and takes years to recover from genetics wise
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Re: EHD Anyone?
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09/20/21 12:05 PM
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Law Dog
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Decimated our deer herds here over the last 15 years just got a notice from the GFP of more impacted counties and suspected outbreaks in other counties. Years ago a guy could get more tags then he wanted to fill, now good luck getting one. Archery tags were open to anyone as long as I can remember now the residents have restrictions and the season is closed to NR for the first time in all my years in SD.
Many bucks will be found dead in their velvet and often near water seen a lot of very nice dead ones over the years, when we get calls on deer walking in circles we know what’s going on. I had a mulie on my line a few years ago acting strange it would just stand there 30 yards away looking at me when I was checking cages. Seen it one place then again in the same place 2 days later standing between bales, weird.
GFP came out and shot it a few days later it was walking around aimlessly so I cut off the horns to turn in to them and put a brain sample in a ziplock bag for testing. I about had to headlock the guy to get him to send in the sample not what I expected to deal with, too much CSI TV maybe.
Just a guesstimate I’d say we lost maybe 80% of the deer numbers we had just 20 years ago
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Jerry Herbst
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Re: EHD Anyone?
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09/20/21 01:14 PM
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Had it off and on in SW Iowa since 2012…. It’s a terrible thing; seems to take out the older age class bucks first and takes years to recover from genetics wise It does absolutely nothing to your genetics. The genetics that are in the surviving deer, the young bucks as you elude to, are the same genetics that were passed down from the older breeder bucks. The only thing you are losing out on is the older age class of bucks for a few years.....genetics are genetics regardless of age.
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Re: EHD Anyone?
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09/20/21 02:37 PM
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I hear all kinds of things like it hits then won’t infect the herd for a few years but that does not seem to be the case, the decline seems to have spanned the last 15 years with few upticks in the deer numbers.
The issue they say is in the dry years when the deer gather in wet areas then the gnats bite the velvet when it’s soft forming the horns infecting the bucks more then others.
Last edited by Law Dog; 09/20/21 02:43 PM.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: EHD Anyone?
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09/20/21 02:41 PM
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Had it off and on in SW Iowa since 2012…. It’s a terrible thing; seems to take out the older age class bucks first and takes years to recover from genetics wise It does absolutely nothing to your genetics. The genetics that are in the surviving deer, the young bucks as you elude to, are the same genetics that were passed down from the older breeder bucks. The only thing you are losing out on is the older age class of bucks for a few years.....genetics are genetics regardless of age. I think what he is saying is if you had been letting good antlered young bucks go, those good antlered mature bucks are gone...
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Re: EHD Anyone?
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09/21/21 06:59 AM
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We have EHD here now and it has decimated our deer herd ... I've never saw anything like this before , there are dead deer every where .. The stench of rotting dear is strong . Most every stream , pond or creek has or had dead deer rotting away ..
We are waiting on the first hard frost to kill the midge bugs that are transmitting this horrific disease
What a shame to see these deer die like this ...and with the antler restriction programs that where in force , We where just now starting to see some results with some very nice mature bucks ...
I'm 70 years old , been hunting and shooting deer for more than 50 years .. I won't be able to hunt here locally this year , there's nothing left ..
Slow, I have a friend down in Dutchess County, and he is seeing just what you are describing...Ultimately, I believe DEC will need to reassess White-tail deer management in NY long before this newest white-tail deer management Plan is up...
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Re: EHD Anyone?
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09/21/21 08:21 AM
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Law Dog
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I’ve seen badgers eat them but many are untouched by most scavengers here.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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