Hello Matt, I don't name lures or manufacturers regardless whether they work or not for two reasons. First and foremost there is considerable cost for me to purchase the scents and then of course the obtaining permission to test and cost to place and check the tests. My tests are a serious value to me not just the $$ outlay but the learning experience is priceless to me so I give away nothing with such a value to me. The 2nd reason is just because a scent doesn't work for me doesn't mean it won't perform great for someone else across the country and I will not damage a manufacturers reputation or their product. If trappers want to know how well a scent works, they should test it themselves in their territory. In fact, that is the main purpose behind for me publishing the testing videos so others may put forth the $$ and effort to test.

There is only one reason why I do tell manufacturers names and the scent's names and that's when they furnish me with the scent, such as you see me telling which scents of Ed Schneider's products I used. Ed was the only scent manufacturer that wanted to help me "learn" gland lure use. I told him I would publish his good performers as well as I would any that were poor ones.

My testing videos are there for the viewer to judge whether the scents were good or poor but also to observe the coyote's body language and foot placement to the test/scent.

Thank you very much Paul, that means a lot to me as it did when you reopend my account.

Do you guys like a very mild coyote gland lure smell or one that explodes when you open the jar? It seems that a home made coyote gland that a human can definitely smell coyote would creat interest aplenty. Reason I ask is that I made some from last years glands not rotted but just a bit aged and added bladder urine. It smells like the back end of a coyote to me.

IMHO, you won’t know the answer until you test the lures under a camera! Forget about what humans smell or think, get it 1st hand from the coyotes! I’ve heard it said by super-well known trappers that gland lures scare coyotes. That is absolutely correct based on my testing/observations BUT not all of them. I’ve observed coyotes turning themselves inside-out to get away from a gland lure test!

That being said, I have found that there are some gland lures that create a great deal of interest/attraction without urine and without scaring the bejesus out of the coyote! Make your lures do that or find one that does is my advice!

Best advice ever given to any trapper is in the first 2 sentence in Seldom's post above.

By chance Seldom was the gland that spooked the coyotes aged gland based ? I get much better responses from fresh gland. A well known lure maker ounce told me the closest thing a coyote has smelled with aged gland is a road kill. My testing in September are different than in November, especially with gland.

That’s sort of what I meant with my Kentucky colloquialism. I didn’t really mean does the human like the smell. When I said like I meant which way, fresh or fully broken down. This one I’ll be trying is not rank but rather a plain coyote smell. I’ve smelled several over the years and ones coyote gland smells quite different than others. But, they all must have success to some degree.

I've seen both spook coyotes. My theory is glands represents a coyote being there. It would be like you walking along out in the woods by your self and another person steps out of no where 4 foot in front of you. Coyotes smell another coyote but can't see it. Urine represents another coyote HAD been there. Just my 2 cents from what I've seen.

And as far as them all having success to some degree, that might be correct but some degrees are surprisingly low. That's why I implore everyone to test. I promise you it will open your eyes.

In my experience testing fresh gland gets attention from adults , YOY coyotes leave. Tainted is a different story. From what Iv'e seen in snow some coyotes spook at anything out of the norm. Some jump right on it. Most gland lures have urine in the formula along with other musks. The best I make is a mix of coyote, red fox and mink. They don't know what to do first.

Gary are these straight glands, your own formulations or commercial lures?I think a lot of commercial formulations use enough other secondary odors in their gland lures that the glands become a secondary odor themselves. And with some of those ingredients be artificial; my experience is that will also lead to some shyness from some coyotes

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I've had(under camera) coyotes (YOY??) turn themselves inside-out to get away when encountering just urine, urine advertised as being from the big, old dogs! My testing with the cameras has made me a pure skeptic of scent products amymore. Why would anyone wanting to catch ALL coyotes that are attracted to a set use a scent that only allows a percentage of them to be caught and chases others away???? I have always figured/assumed that many of these trappers have such a large population to work with that there are enough agressive coyotes to fill in the voids left by the percent that are afraid of a scent so it's an unknown, non-issue.

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I've had(under camera) coyotes (YOY??) turn themselves inside-out to get away when encountering just urine, urine advertised as being from the big, old dogs! My testing with the cameras has made me a pure skeptic of scent products amymore. Why would anyone wanting to catch ALL coyotes that are attracted to a set use a scent that only allows a percentage of them to be caught and chases others away???? I have always figured/assumed that many of these trappers have such a large population to work with that there are enough agressive coyotes to fill in the voids left by the percent that are afraid of a scent so it's an unknown, non-issue.
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Seldom, have you witnessed similar experiences with other types of lures, say food lures or curiosity lures?

No, no expression or body language representing a fear response. The negative response I've seen with many many lures/baits/scents I've tested is either a lackadaisical approach and very minimal working of the scent(light scratching,etc) or they just plain ignore them. I've only seen fear or repulsion with gland lures and a few instances with urine though I never got into testing urine and the times I used urine at a test site was stuff I'd had on hand. I don't have any of that urine anymore btw!

Seldom has been good enough to post a bunch of his videos of coyotes working gland lures on YouTube if anyone wants to see some of this stuff for themselves

Very interesting. Thanks Seldom. I to video a lot of coyotes and a few working lures and baits plus old sets after season. I haven’t seen much of the fear response but since I’m always on location I have see a bunch of them just ignoring the smells.
My question is time of year? And age of the coyotes showing the fear response to the gland lure? I find this very interesting.
Most of the camera work I do is after season through spring.

Hi ya Yote, long time no hear!
That year I started testing gland lures on 2/24 and finished on 6/1. I tested 10 coyote gland lures and 2 fox gland lures. 4 coyote gland lures proved to be very attractive and no coyote ever showed any indication of fear or leeriness and readily approached the tests. Also their body language was interpreted as relaxed during their visit.

The other 6 coyote gland lures had all coyotes either showing no attraction to the lure or exhibited obvious leeriness to approach the tests. Literally the opposite reactions as the 4! BTW, whenever I saw no attraction shown to a test I always used to a weather app to show me what direction the wind was suppose to be at that hour of the coyote at the test site.

All coyotes were highly attracted to the 2 red fox gland lures.

One coyote gland lure was always ignored by coyote but the bobcats couldn’t get enough of it.

As I’ve stated before, I never give out names of lure manufacturers but I will make an exception this one time. One of the 4 “good” coyote gland lures was from Stef Forget who is no longer in business. Several times people actually walked on the piece of wood I had the lure on but the coyotes loved it. The coyotes continued to visit this test for over a month regardless of several heavy rains and crapped on the test the morning I pulled the camera. I realize that once you get coyotes pissing they will return and continue but I had no idea that they would continue for so long.

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There is another company selling his lures in Quebec now. I have one of his coyote lures that I purchased through the new company but it does not appear to be a gland lure.

All fresh gland ground and preserved with real Loveage from Nick W. I purchased 20 years ago. Half of the batch I added Asaf. tincture to, doesn't seem to attract as well. I use both to make um pee and as a pacifier. Made some this summer with otter in it after seeing coyote tracks around otter toilets. We'll see I guess.
Seldom is spot on, Red Fox gland angers some coyotes and gets attention from all age groups. I do most of my testing without cameras during season with traps buried with snow cover.
Seldom makes another point with the population thing. High pop. more competition , more aggression. Lower pop. more caution. I try to appeal to all. This ain't Kansas LOL.. Dang coyotes anyway

Yup, that’s right Matt but I’ve never seen where he’s making gland lures. Woulda-coulda-shoulda bought more of Stef’s before he soldout! LOL

Before I started testing gland lures what Gary and Yes Sir are talking about was on my mind. I didn’t and still don’t care specifically what’s in folks gland lures, that’s their business, part of the lure’s value but I do care that many don’t work as well as others. I wanted to know which ones were more attractive than others, how the coyote’s approached a gland lure, and where they put their feet.

Once I started testing more questions came to mind along the lines of ingredients which of course directly affects the attract-ability of the lure. For instance, why would a lure manufacturer sell a “coyote” gland lure that coyotes repeatedly found unattractive but bobcats would literally stand in line to rub and roll like there was no tomorrow and continue to return to rub some more? I have a video showing a pair of bobcats working a coyote gland lure test in that manner. The male starts working the test and the female is forced to wait her turn and you can watch her anxiety build as she is loosing patience to take her turn. A fun thing for me to watch but it should be a worrisome one as well. The first question that came to my mind was what was the manufacturer thinking by adding an ingredient that made the lure performed that way?

For decades I’ve been a proponent of testing all lures and baits before a trapper uses it. How would you like to buy a coyote gland lure from a reputable lure manufacturer and not know it doesn’t attract coyotes at all but rather bobcats, or the lure frightens coyotes, or the coyotes find the lure just plain unattractive?