Re: Bitcoin ETF
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Thank you Sniper. My financial advise come from Tman and folks like you, White, Steven, Bryce, and Decoy Mecoy based solely on what ya'll think. I respect every one of your opinions. If I am hearing ya'll, correctly, then investing in RIOT is not a good idea? I was thinking about getting a couple of shares; I can stand to lose $40 dollars if its worth the gamble.
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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I like it! Thanks Sniper!
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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Much easier to own the coin after an intro period of learning. If you want help with the how's - shoot me a message. It's confusing at first but once you get it, it's nothing really. Other items that have exposure to coins would be trusts. Similar but different to like a Sprott Precious metal trust. Grayscale Bitcoin Trust - GBTC
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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Chancy, why do you feel Riot would be a good investment? What is your end goal, are you just looking for some exposure to the Bitcoin market with hopes of some profit?
If so I'd counsel just purchase some fractional Bitcoin.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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10/30/21 08:13 PM
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Chancy, why do you feel Riot would be a good investment? What is your end goal, are you just looking for some exposure to the Bitcoin market with hopes of some profit?
If so I'd counsel just purchase some fractional Bitcoin. Thanks for the response Steven. I really don't have a reason for the investment other than it won't break my pocket to by $40 dollars worth. I guess what got me interested in it is how big a facility they built down here and also the stuff in the local paper talking about them, I figured why not? All I know is things are changing so fast in my little rural county with all kinds of tech companies coming in. I also have no faith in the long-term future of the dollar; as I have seen how much money I made off interest in the last 10 years off my savings account at the local bank. With current interest rates, I think I have lost money, but I'm not smart enough to really tell. Since I cant even buy a fraction of a fraction of a Bitcoin, I figured that investing in something that makes Bitcoin makes sense. I'm new to stocks and trading and understand from the folks on this forum that you really need to know what you are doing if one is to invest in the market properly and intelligently. Its not about making fast money, but rather protecting what you have. I had about $1000 dollars to invest in and I bought one stock of Tesla. Still had a bit left, and thought what the heck, I'll buy a couple of RIOT. The Whinstone facility is very big down here and employs a lot of people, but most are not locals; perhaps it won't fail. So much going on with housing, big business, and huge technologies going on down here its crazy! It may be a bad investment because all these new homes they are building are going to need electricity. According to the local paper, this Bitcoin mining facility will be a direct competitor with all the new homes......energy will have to come from somewhere and down here if builders are not subdividing farmland for new houses, then they are placing solar panels. Really crazy situation. I don't understand how Bitcoin mining really works, but if it does one day replace the dollar then I thought it was worth the gamble. Chancey
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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Chancey, When the power grid in TX crashes due to virtual bitty coins, we may need to start eatin' our bobcats and jacks over an open fire like the comancheros used to, Si? Blessings, Mark
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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Chancy I hate to break it to you but your money in savings has been losing value factoring in for inflation since at least 2008. This year one is losing at least 4 percent.
Now let's discuss your reasonings for purchasing RIOT. If you want to buy it because it's a local company that has potential and you want to invest a minimal amount that is fair and I have done the same thing. Now if your reasoning is because you think the dollar may fail and there is a possibility Bitcoin will become a real means of exchange then I say just buy Bitcoin.
Why? Because it's going to be a bumpy ride getting there, bitcoin prices are very volatile and profitability for miners is dependent on electricity prices. One I am about to say next in no way an opinion of RIOT as a company but the market it's in. Can RIOT withstand those fluctuations? I have no idea. One thing I know for sure is no matter how many miners go broke, today you can buy roughly .0008 bitcoin. No matter what happens to the price you will still have .00065.
There will come day when bitcoin isn't priced in USD or any other currency for that matter.
"Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon". Milton Friedman.
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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Thank you Steven for the comment. You really pinned my thought process to a T. Part of me wants to invest in a local company and the other part thought that getting in with a mining company due to the situation of the dollar. Until now, I did not realize I could by a fraction/percentage of Bitcoin. I thought one had to buy the whole share, which is of course unattainable. How does one go about buying .0008 of a stock?
What do you mean by saying that bitcoin won't be priced in the dollar or any other currency..........will it be its own currency and there is no exchange rate? I do appreciate you taking the time to comment on these threads! Chancey.
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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Thank you Steven for the comment. You really pinned my thought process to a T. Part of me wants to invest in a local company and the other part thought that getting in with a mining company due to the situation of the dollar. Until now, I did not realize I could by a fraction/percentage of Bitcoin. I thought one had to buy the whole share, which is of course unattainable. How does one go about buying .0008 of a stock?
What do you mean by saying that bitcoin won't be priced in the dollar or any other currency..........will it be its own currency and there is no exchange rate? I do appreciate you taking the time to comment on these threads! Chancey. On the crypto exchanges, you just buy how much in the crypto you want. If you put in 100 dollars, you get 100 dollars, minus fees, of BTC.(which BTW is about .0016 BTC atm)
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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Thank you Steven for the comment. You really pinned my thought process to a T. Part of me wants to invest in a local company and the other part thought that getting in with a mining company due to the situation of the dollar. Until now, I did not realize I could by a fraction/percentage of Bitcoin. I thought one had to buy the whole share, which is of course unattainable. How does one go about buying .0008 of a stock?
What do you mean by saying that bitcoin won't be priced in the dollar or any other currency..........will it be its own currency and there is no exchange rate? I do appreciate you taking the time to comment on these threads! Chancey. Chancey, let me reiterate, don't buy cryptocurrency on my advice, when asked about it by friends in conversation, my general response is it's has a 50 50 chance of going to a half-million plus or zero. It will go to one or the other. Research it and decide if it's for you or not. I don't try and convince anyone to enter that market only explain what little I know. Like a dollar is divisible into cents, a Bitcoin is divisible into what is called a Satoshi. One hundred cents in a dollar, 100 million Satoshis in a Bitcoin. So yes it's possible and easy to buy fractional bitcoin. The easiest place to buy bitcoin is on an exchange. I only recommend coinbase because that is the one I signed up with and for no particular reason. You can buy bitcoin on robinhood if you have an account. Exchanges will charge you a fee for a transaction. I believe Coinbase is 1.49 per transaction plus a small percentage of that transaction cost. The less you buy at a time, the higher percentage the transaction cost. At 20 dollars it will be about 7.5 percent, 40 will be about 5 percent. Percentages are what matter. I failed to mention in an earlier post that miners' income doesn't only come from the bitcoin they are awarded. They make money on transactional costs as well. How much that is I haven't a clue.
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Re: Bitcoin ETF
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Whatever you do, do not buy on coinbase or robinhood. happy to not hijack the thread and go to pm's if you have questions about wallets & exchanges.
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