^^^ This ^^^^

I think she denied his advances, and with his HUGE ego he couldn't take it, so he premeditated the whole thing and killed her on purpose. 1st degree murder. Now someone has to just prove my theory.

It was a pietta SAA clone in 45 colt. He was supposedly practicing a cross draw.

This

My thoughts exactly! My father taught me at a very early age that if someone hands you a gun and says" It's not loaded" you never take their word for it. Instead, you point it in a safe direction and check it out yourself.

My take is the prop guy is responsible. This is a movie set where I am sure mishandling of props happens often. (Meaning say point a prop gun at someone) If this one time the gun was loaded the person who loaded it is responsible. How many of you have ever played cowboys and Indians with empty BB guns? What if you friend put a BB in it thinking it would be cool. Are you at fault or your friend. The people on the movie set are just big kids playing a game.

The person holding the gun is ultimately responsible. Every gun safety instructor should discuss this tragedy with his or her students

Is there a case or just a shooting?

which prop guy ?

the one who quit on the third ND on set ?

or the prop assistant who suddenly got promoted to head prop person when the knowledgeable employees quit and walked off set because they knew the place was a tragedy ready to happen with all the negligence.

if the captain and co-pilot on a 747 walk off the air craft sighting it is not safe and the airline promotes the stewardess to pilot and says stay on time stay on budget and then proceeds to have the plane crash off the end of the run way killing some passengers and injuring others. does the airline bear no responsibility ?

I am not saying murder , but death resulting from gross negligence and there is a bunch of that to go around

the producer on set and the trigger man were one and the same person , he gets negligence for pulling the trigger , not checking the gun , and not stopping everything and examining the safety protocol on the first and every subsequent ND.

basically Cabela's front door guy has better procedure for ensuring safety than they were using on the set of this film.

and why , it would appear pure arrogance , usually an ND makes people STOP and examine everything they were doing and how it happened and how to make that never happen again. these people do not and did not learn from their mistakes , it is then in the interest of the publics safety that they never be allowed access to the tools they so negligently miss used.

I have been next to an ND and I have had an ND (no injuries or laws broken)
you can learn from it or you can lie to yourself and be a danger to yourself and others.
I choose to learn from both

I'm thinking he will walk at a criminal trial, as far as civil, all with any involvement and anybody with money will be culpable. As far as criminal there have been many incidents like this even with law enforcement agencies and few being found guilty in criminal court or even charged. Its all about the money in this case much like others, if you got money your going to get a civil penalty. The one that will be interesting will be Rittenhouse trial, I think the only thing that will save him is big money and attorneys.

I'm thinking he will walk at a criminal trial, as far as civil, all with any involvement and anybody with money will be culpable. As far as criminal there have been many incidents like this even with law enforcement agencies and few being found guilty in criminal court or even charged. Its all about the money in this case much like others, if you got money your going to get a civil penalty. The one that will be interesting will be Rittenhouse trial, I think the only thing that will save him is big money and attorneys.

Gcp stop using logic hahaha.

It's NM, I bet he pays off the AG and Gov MLG and all of them walk.

With the billions they spend on movies they can’t come up with a short chambered barrel and blank rounds really? Low budget corner cutting production with little to no practical knowledge of gun safety.

You can hire me to be your brain surgeon but your going to die I’m sure of that. LOL

Local news did an update. Basically everyone is blaming everyone.
Guns were left unattended between 1100 -1300

Somebody knew that gun was loaded.

One thing the armorers lawyers mentioned was there was at least 1 live round in the box of blanks. Any of the disgruntled employees could've placed it in there to sabotage the scene.

Tragic accident caused by incompetance and idiocy.

If they’re going to use real guns in movies, it’s up to the handler to determine if the gun is truly unloaded. It’s not some helpers job to say “cold gun” and accept responsibility for the actors failure to verify.


It was 100% on Alec Baldwin and no one else. Anyone else saying that the gun was unloaded should just be treated as suggestion.