are freash goods worth more than stale

This a really good way to really lower the coon harvest for sale. With FHA being one of the few major collectors, there will be a lot of trappers not bothering to put up coon with the cost of doing that just so buyers can buy put up fur for couple dollars more then put up costs, let alone running a line. Groenwold's has been a very good market for a major portion of the country for fur in the grease, especially coons and if that market is limited or comes much later in the season the numbers of pelts for sale will tumble much more then anticipated. If there are that many coons in storage it will take several years for fresh goods to go up enough for harvesters to get excited.

Bryce

Coonman I think you'd be giving the fur away anyhow. You could offer your dried pelts as a peace offering to the folks you work with that you're scared of or don't like. Kinda like in the movie Jeremiah Johnson. Maybe you'd end up with a wife.

Yes Groeny still rocks!!! If a business isn’t profitable. The business doesn’t stay in business very long. One business comes to mind who followed that scenario and isn’t around anymore. Just saying. Any way. Hope the market turns around soon. For cconmans sake.

SHOOT so does all this mean it's not the Year to quit a good job.?

And just trap full time

Trump wrecked the fur market.

It’s on the news 24 hours a day
Supply chain problems,major supply chain problems
Cost of shipping, major extream increase in price of shipping.
Instead of being paranoid, think of the realities of today.
What makes me think like this is no real effort to buy any fur.
Maby I’m all washed up and dumb
Maby not
How long would a container of fur sit in a container in possible heat or other adverse condition till it got to where it was going?

I heard due to the covid most of China's fur manufactures are shut down. And this Is just the start of the selling season.

That dont sound good, I thought covid was over there an done

You all act surprised. NAFA goes belly up, FHA sells everything for nothing except enough to cover their payroll and utility bills and now one of the largest buyers in the world goes belly up and for some reason it is a shock. China has been running this fur industry for years. China man pulled GFW's check book. It should surprise no one who was paying attention. Some are living in a fairy tale reality, It Is Over. Simple as that. LLL

We need to start a movement where conservatives where mink, fox, coyote and beaver to show support for President Trump. Then we need to start another movement where liberals wear weasel, skunk, opossum and raccoon to show their hatred of America.

Keith

Lots of tentacles for sure and some are much longer then others. We have had almost two decades where the cost of borrowing money was almost nothing and inflation has been very low, this has allowed us to keep labor costs low and also farm out much of what we use and produce. What if we have a couple of decades of higher wages, higher interest rates and higher costs of goods, services and living? With most posting on here doing OK and complaining what must it be like for the majority of our citizens that don't have two good oars and a boat that does not leak? If we move into a more basic needs life style where it is food, housing, energy and clothing we will put even more money into the coffers of the few real huge firms that control those basic needs. Even in rural America farmers can not legally repair their own John Deere equipment, farmers can not clean and keep or sell most seeds, major packers take contracted livestock and poultry before the free market stuff, so we think this is only a metro issue? In fact much of rural America unfortunately is under the control of fewer entities then the rest of the country.

Bryce

Surprise surprise it's like Larry said it been coming warning signs big( EMS)
2 things could be happening
1) setting up for some to clip coupons
2) market for certain high value fur (western coyote at half value of last year ) going even througher south than last coming to a state near you .
My thoughts when you see the rats leaving the ship pay attention. Might look for a life prevser.
Red

So if fur buyers who work for a profit, are unwilling to travel to buy fur, at least for the short term, then that cost and time is transferred to the harvester. Another good reason or cost that reduces one's revenues or at least net revenues. If a person wants to travel 300 miles round trip to a buyer at say even 20 mph that is 15 gallons of gas which is close to $50. In today's market that would be about 15-20 WI coons put up. If this situation would continue for say most of this season I wonder how this may impact smaller association sales and auctions? Would buyers even be willing to drive to bid on many of the items, especially the less desirable items. It would be intriguing to watch buyers pass over OK put up coons and mid grade eastern yotes, and red fox to bid on rats that are used to line the jackets of the $500 cats.

Bryce

This will put a lot of Trap Supply / Equipment business out of business. I would hate to be trying to make a living selling trapping supplies in the next 3 years if this does not turn around. For the folks that have equipment now is the time to hang on to it. oil your traps up to keep them from rusting away and hope for the next fur boom. When there is another boom their will very little new equipment on the market because the MFG companies will have gone under this year. MD

. Too many coon isn’t the issue. If you think a short harvest is the solution IMO you are barking up the wrong tree. Right now they aren’t using any amount of coon. What could well happen if the Chinese decide to buy quantities of coin, rats whatever and don’t have a large amount to chose they’ll move on to something else like rabbit . You look at the harvest the last few years of coon and it’s basically been nothing.

You can say that again, and backwards

For some of us...that are pushing 60 years old (I'm 57)...we have likely seen our last fur boom. Even if another stretch of decent prices comes along we are gonna be too old to pile up the fur.

Sad...is what it is.

what you guys need is a lot of buyers like there used to be not to long ago that are willing to bid againest each other and lose money on furs like the trappers have been doing for quite a while now lot of work for fun and cost money to do lol

"The global production of ranch mink was over 100 million a few years ago. This year it is expected to fall in around
12 million. This extreme culling will have a very positive effect on wild fur prices and we are optimistic it will start at
our March 2022 auction. The global fur buying trade has been unable to attend live auctions for 2 years and there is no
question we will have an impressive list of eager buyers wanting to attend this year."

Source FHA.

Both the mink production down and people possibly being allowed to attend a sale may be good news? At least for me.