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Help with beaver #7408698
11/18/21 07:14 PM
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Marshall Texas
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So I'm trapping a new place and the first check caught two beaver, and had 3 snap traps and I've checked it for five days now, and have caught nothing, but there is still fresh sigh, chewed sticks, tracks, so am i dealing with trap shy beaver?

Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7408703
11/18/21 07:20 PM
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What kind of sets were you making? Castor mounds or blind sets?

Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7408715
11/18/21 07:35 PM
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Marshall Texas
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Castor mounds with foot holds, and a few slide set with 330, But I can't find any bank dens, And these are river beaver. Their getting in the corn above the River.

Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7408735
11/18/21 07:49 PM
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Eau Claire Wi
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Could try blind sets on slides/crossovers. A trap shy beaver is a tough critter to get. Had one The Boy called "Bob the Beaver", was on a removal job and everyday he'd pull the 330s off the bank and toss them in deep water still set. He even moved a foot hold down to the end of a drowning cable in 5 feet of water without setting it off. Twice! Everyday The Boy would tear a big hole in the dam and every day id ask, "can he build it?" He'd reply, "Yes He Can". Lol anyhow took a lot of trial and error and some help from a wise trapper on this site to finally get him caught. It was kinda bitter sweet catching Bob but the county was happy and I learned much.

Good luck, keep on it and you will catch that beaver. He's got to put his foot down somewhere.


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Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7408736
11/18/21 07:49 PM
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I would blind set those slides with your footholds bedded well. They could be avoiding the castor mounds since they got snapped using castor. I’d also check my pan tension so they have to put more direct weight on the pan to get a deeper catch. That’s just what I personally would try first.

Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7408799
11/18/21 08:39 PM
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Marshall Texas
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Thanks.i'll tell ya if i get him or not.

Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7408855
11/18/21 09:13 PM
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If they are wised up to footholds,bodygrips and castoreum scent your next step will be blind sets submerged snares.


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Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7408858
11/18/21 09:15 PM
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Keep at it, my experience is to use footholds and body grips and leave snares as a last resort.

Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7408919
11/18/21 10:06 PM
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I think there would have to be a bank den, is this river have deep water or is it just backed up from a beaver dam.
How far up stream have you looked for den's, i found a beaver den that was about 100 yards up stream from a dam,
and the water was only about 2 feet deep the entrance to the den was above water level there was a bunch of chewed sticks in the entrance
i took a 60# male and a 40# female from that den with 330's

Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7409247
11/19/21 10:34 AM
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I would start looking at snares up on the bank (not at the water line) where they are going in to the corn.

Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7409726
11/19/21 08:44 PM
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Unless you are trapping them for nuisance and dont care about the fur dont snare them on land.They wreck themselves if alive in a snare.
Submerged snares(drowned beaver) on the other hand wont hurt the fur at all


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Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7409945
11/20/21 01:01 AM
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I have caught some tough ones with a large foothold totally on land and carefully blended in. Run the drowning wire off the side. I have also taken a few with a solid staked trap if checking first thing every morning. Just don't let 'em tangle on anything.


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Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7409958
11/20/21 01:12 AM
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If you educate one at a castor mound, you can pretty much forget castor mounds.
Make blind sets and check them less frequently. Beavers aren't rocket scientist, but they aren't completely stupid either.


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Re: Help with beaver [Re: waggler] #7409975
11/20/21 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by waggler
Beavers aren't rocket scientist, but they aren't completely stupid either.


I believe they achieve the status of rocket scientist quickly when they get educated.



Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7409976
11/20/21 01:53 AM
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^^^^^^
I won't argue with that!


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Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7409978
11/20/21 02:00 AM
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Goldsboro, North Carolina
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They don't start off that way though.



Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7410000
11/20/21 03:16 AM
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If you still have a kit. A small amount of that sac oil may help.
If you have a channel or a place for a blind set a 330 and the oil on the wind side


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Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7410001
11/20/21 03:22 AM
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And trained never are smarter then any scientist!


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Re: Help with beaver [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7410468
11/20/21 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Originally Posted by waggler
Beavers aren't rocket scientist, but they aren't completely stupid either.


I believe they achieve the status of rocket scientist quickly when they get educated.

Does this carry on to the next season if not caught? Got a pond that I've been working on for 2 years, just made some sets today...crossing everything on my body! Lol


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Re: Help with beaver [Re: black beaver] #7410540
11/20/21 09:43 PM
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I believe it does.Their guard may be down if you are careful the next season but once they know you are there they become difficult to catch.
You can often get trapshy beaver with a snarepole in winter if you get ice.


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