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Re: Not Guilty
[Re: Law Dog]
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11/20/21 01:37 AM
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And Facebook pulled down a “Go Fund Me Page “ for Rittenhouses Defense Fund…..Shocking !
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Re: Not Guilty
[Re: Law Dog]
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11/20/21 02:26 AM
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Lee, I thought better of you. If you're going to call names, at least try to be original.
Jim
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Re: Not Guilty
[Re: lee steinmeyer]
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11/20/21 02:35 AM
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Saw on a vidio clip that Alan Dershowitz (not sure it's spelled right) said after the trial that he has a case against biden and his ilk. Dershowitz is a big shot law professor back east. Don't surprise me he would say something like that, just to get his lawyer buddies a line on some new work that prolly ain't pro bono! My respect for lawyers continue to shrink, after seeing what our tick in Alaska said in response to a Trump statement. Actually, Dershowitz is a bona-fide true liberal of the FDR type. He's anything but a conservative YET he stepped up to defend Donald Trump in the first impeachment trial even though he voted for Biden. Dershowitz truly puts principle above ideology. He has my respect.
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Re: Not Guilty
[Re: Law Dog]
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11/20/21 02:39 AM
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Dershowitz always takes the defendant's side. He's a criminal defense lawyer. He was one of OJ's lawyers.
Jim
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Re: Not Guilty
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11/20/21 10:56 AM
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IMO, Kyle will have more priority lawsuit(s) concerns than a filing a defamation suit. In any case, it's the Lawyers that will benefit from any of this. I can't believe how many people on here want to feed lawyers. Quite a litigious society they have created. 
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Re: Not Guilty
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11/20/21 12:53 PM
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...in other words Biden is trying to sew division and destroy the country for his masters before American's wake up. Yes. Just being a democrat.
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Re: Not Guilty
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11/20/21 01:13 PM
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IMO, Kyle will have more priority lawsuit(s) concerns than a filing a defamation suit. In any case, it's the Lawyers that will benefit from any of this. I can't believe how many people on here want to feed lawyers. Quite a litigious society they have created. That lawyers created is more like it. One thing the trial showed clearly, if anyone was paying attention, is the best and worst of legal practice along with an obvious abandonment of the claimed first mission of our judicial system. That being being pursuit of TRUTH and Justice. JMO, but if barristers want to hold an exclusivity upon the practice of law then they should couple that with extreme penalty for malpractice rather than render themselves immune from sanction. Clearly the prosecution in this case fabricated and withheld and prevaricated.
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Re: Not Guilty
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11/20/21 02:24 PM
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Because the prosecution and everyone else has been through every single piece of his online postings, his phone, etc and NOT ONE SINGLE PIECE OF EVIDENCE was found linking him to any white supremacist organization or support or posting thereof. You can have your opinion, but when you tell obvious lies about someone for over a year and smear that person's name, you dang better believe you're gonna get hit with a defamation suit. Not ONCE did the media ever say anything about him other than he was a racist, white supremacist vigilante who deserves to go to prison for life. That's defamation by every legal definition.
I didn't realize you were a lawyer. As such you know as well as I do that Rittenhouse is free to bring suit. My point is that those whom he might sue can easily use the valid defense of "OPINION" they can also use the valid defense of "INNOCENT DISSEMINATION". Regardless of what the media said, they can always claim it was their opinion, and that they had no information that indicated otherwise. They may in fact be lying about that, but how is Rittenhouse going to prove it was NOT an opinion ? The same applies directly to this discussion. Your opinion is different from mine. I can't prove you are wrong or that I am right. And neither can you. That is the difficulty he faces. Opinion is subjective. I just don't see him getting anywhere if someone decides to fight the charges.......if there are any. I think any of his targets have too many legal arguments that they can use to defend against a defamation suit. Perhaps you should read the definition of defamation that has already been posted. I'll take "Rittenhouse will be over $500M richer for $2000 Alex". You can have an opinion all you want, but when you put it out for the world to see to intentionally drive a false narrative, you're going to end up in court. I can't believe you honestly believe these idiots are covered by "Innocent Dissemination". There was nothing innocent about the intent behind their narrative. The Anti Defamation League has already weighed in that he has a case against multiple outlets, as well as Biden. It sounds like you'd rather support the misinformation brigade than Kyle. No wonder the country is in the state it is these days.
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Re: Not Guilty
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11/20/21 05:40 PM
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I can't believe you honestly believe these idiots are covered by "Innocent Dissemination". There was nothing innocent about the intent behind their narrative. The Anti Defamation League has already weighed in that he has a case against multiple outlets, as well as Biden.
It sounds like you'd rather support the misinformation brigade than Kyle. No wonder the country is in the state it is these days.
You are completely missing my point so I'll try i t one more time. 1. I am glad KR was acquitted. 2. IMO he never should have been charged. 3. People and media outlets made all sorts of comments about the guy. Some were obviously unfair and perhaps untrue. 4. He probably has grounds to bring an action against various people and entities. 5. I wish him well but IMO he will have a difficult time winning in court
You can quibble about definitions all you want but remember, as James pointed out, he, RITTENHOUSE, has to prove actual malice. Biden et al don't have to prove anything. I don't believe KR can manage to do that. He may bring suit and get a settlement out of court. I think that is his best option. But if it goes to trial I believe he will lose.
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Re: Not Guilty
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11/20/21 05:52 PM
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White17 ....has been smelling snowmobile exhaust fumes all day long....getting it tuned up ...plus he's a little cranky, cuz he just spent ovah 200.00 to fill the machine up with gas.....
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Re: Not Guilty
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11/20/21 07:11 PM
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Lol, Nessmuck.
Let's take this one step at a time. What defamatory statements were made, and who made them?
"Jimbo is in fact a dog faced pony soldier" is not defamatory. Most insults aren't defamatory. Otherwise, James could find a goldmine of lawsuits here.
The entire media won't be liable, it would (possibly) be Don Lemon and MSNBC or someone else specific and their employer. What if anything did Biden say about KR?
Who was it who wrote or said something that defamed Kyle?
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Re: Not Guilty
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11/20/21 07:34 PM
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Under the circumstances, calling Kyle a "white supremacist" would be, imho, defamatory.
If you can find where the president said that, I'd be interested to see it. Shame on him, if he did. He at least owes an apology, if he said it.
Jim
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