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Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Camohoyt340] #7432875
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Originally Posted by Camohoyt340
I buy 10 apple tree seedlings every year from the local soil and water conservation district sale. I also buy 10 tree tubes to plant the apple trees in. They are the plastic type. They work great. I have apples on the trees that were planted 5 years ago.


I have done the same. The mice chewed thru the tube and gnawed up the seedlings eventually killing about 70%.

Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Dirty D] #7432920
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
Where I am now I planted 10 White Pines and the deer chewed the tops off every one of them.

Use bud caps


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Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Eagleye] #7433004
12/16/21 07:31 AM
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the deer here eat every tree, if I don't protect them,I've been using the platic tube on the swamp oak that i have been planting , so far they hae work good , I will be planting 100 oaks this spring ,

Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Trapper Dahlgren] #7433010
12/16/21 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Trapper Dahlgren
the deer here eat every tree, if I don't protect them,I've been using the platic tube on the swamp oak that i have been planting , so far they hae work good , I will be planting 100 oaks this spring ,

I'm planting 100 this spring also- are 4' tubes sufficient? In addition, did you use any landscape fabric for weed barrier- currently thinking about a 2 x 2 square

Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: AJE] #7433013
12/16/21 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by AJE
Originally Posted by DirtyD
Where I am now I planted 10 White Pines and the deer chewed the tops off every one of them.

Use bud caps

I've been using index cards for bud caps, stapled capturing a few needles of main terminal- it's a pain but necessary until that terminal is out of reach

Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Eagleye] #7434631
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Yes, index cards is what our local forester recommends


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Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Lugnut] #7434703
12/18/21 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Iíve been trying to get some beech saplings started along the lane to my camp. I transplant 3Ė4 footers from elsewhere on the property. The porcupines are really hard on them. Out of the 18 I currently have planted I believe I replanted most of those at least once some of them three times after they were girdled.

I finally made 7Ė8 inch diameter tubes that are 33 inches tall out of a 24 x 50 roll of aluminum flashing. After doing some research this seemed to be the best option. I guess Iíll know whether or not it works by spring, winter is when they usually hit them the hardest.

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I experimented with porkies and tree protection. So far so good, cheap and easy. I noticed porkies love to chew and gnaw on fresh OSB. any deer blind or shed built with the stuff is chewed to heck. So I tried a distraction, so far it works, not a 100% but a solid 80 to 90%. Scrap OSB pieces, small one to two foot squares, or any odd chunk screwed to a short stake. put these low to the ground around plantings. I even put fox urine on some as they always seemed to get in my fox traps over the years. They tend to chew the OSB before your newly planted trees. They can be trapped at these boards also, once one starts on one, they come back over and over. I still of course shoot everyone I see. I have thinned them a lot, but pretty sure all I'm doing is a local control.


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Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: AJE] #7434895
12/18/21 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by AJE
I was at a forestry event this Fall & the instructor told us to put a mothball in the bottom of each tube every Fall to help keep the mice out.

Mothballs are for moths

. As an in house ADC Guy I've seen and smelled them used for everything BUT moths.

It doesn't help!!!


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Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Feedinggrounds] #7434896
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Originally Posted by Feedinggrounds
Originally Posted by Lugnut
Iíve been trying to get some beech saplings started along the lane to my camp. I transplant 3Ė4 footers from elsewhere on the property. The porcupines are really hard on them. Out of the 18 I currently have planted I believe I replanted most of those at least once some of them three times after they were girdled.

I finally made 7Ė8 inch diameter tubes that are 33 inches tall out of a 24 x 50 roll of aluminum flashing. After doing some research this seemed to be the best option. I guess Iíll know whether or not it works by spring, winter is when they usually hit them the hardest.

[Linked Image]

I experimented with porkies and tree protection. So far so good, cheap and easy. I noticed porkies love to chew and gnaw on fresh OSB. any deer blind or shed built with the stuff is chewed to heck. So I tried a distraction, so far it works, not a 100% but a solid 80 to 90%. Scrap OSB pieces, small one to two foot squares, or any odd chunk screwed to a short stake. put these low to the ground around plantings. I even put fox urine on some as they always seemed to get in my fox traps over the years. They tend to chew the OSB before your newly planted trees. They can be trapped at these boards also, once one starts on one, they come back over and over. I still of course shoot everyone I see. I have thinned them a lot, but pretty sure all I'm doing is a local control.

Good Advice


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Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Golf ball] #7584135
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Originally Posted by Golf ball
Iíve used the plastic tree tubes for years with no issues. Yes you will get a mouse nest every now and then , we clean them out in the spring. We donít have bears but do have ground bees but have never had them nest at the bottom before . There is good and bad in most cases but in this case the good out weighs the bad by far.


What about ants though? I've heard ants can be a problem in a tree tube.

I'm thinking of painting some of my tree tubes beige, as the white sticks out like a sore thumb sometimes.


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Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Eagleye] #7584146
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Here's where I ended up, just bought this rigid plastic fencing from Menards and cut it into 16" widths to make 5" diameter tree tubes- I would've preferred 4' but only found it in 3'. I found a lot of poultry type products, but nothing was sturdy enough to be self-erecting. There's pros and cons to every style but we have a high population of black bears and I was trying to limit the ground be nesting.
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Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Lugnut] #7584171
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
Iíve been trying to get some beech saplings started along the lane to my camp. I transplant 3Ė4 footers from elsewhere on the property. The porcupines are really hard on them. Out of the 18 I currently have planted I believe I replanted most of those at least once some of them three times after they were girdled.

I finally made 7Ė8 inch diameter tubes that are 33 inches tall out of a 24 x 50 roll of aluminum flashing. After doing some research this seemed to be the best option. I guess Iíll know whether or not it works by spring, winter is when they usually hit them the hardest.

[Linked Image]


Update on the aluminum tubes; they work! Two winters now and the porkies are unable to chew on and girdle my beech saplings. I noticed they did some exploratory chewing on a black birch and an oak which I've never seen them do before. They prefer young cherry and beech of any age.

They concentrated on the two remaining hemlocks on the property. They spend all winter nipping the smaller branches off and have killed four so far.


Eh...wot?

Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Eagleye] #7584198
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I likes the osb distraction idea


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Re: Tree Seedling Tubes [Re: Eagleye] #7584216
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Originally Posted by Eagleye
Here's where I ended up, just bought this rigid plastic fencing from Menards and cut it into 16" widths to make 5" diameter tree tubes- I would've preferred 4' but only found it in 3'. I found a lot of poultry type products, but nothing was sturdy enough to be self-erecting. There's pros and cons to every style but we have a high population of black bears and I was trying to limit the ground be nesting.
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I would think the black would attract too much heat. I try to lean towards white or beige. Thanks for posting. I hadn't considered that option.

The mesh would be nice to keep ants away.

Your tree plot looks nice.

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