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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: warrior] #7434086
12/17/21 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
safe thing to do would be to put 2 officers at every school with their patrol rifles , so if there is something it is over fast

ever notice when failure is the outcome the shootings slow down especially when it is a few in a row.

also notice the news hates reporting shooter failure and counter terrorist success.

and nothing disappears faster from a new cycle than a citizen ending a terror attack.


WRONG!

The proper thing would be the Principal and selected staff plus parents being fully armed and willing to meet all threats with overwhelming force.

Or you could just let the politzei handle it as they do in most police states.


I have met my kids principal and he is a fine football coach but he couldn't tell a 223 from a 243 there are few teachers there who could be trained up

I also know 90% of the cops in town

given short notice , I would prefer 2 of the cops or a parent be there armed to watch things.

so if the answer was parents yup I could find some and that could definitely work

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 12/17/21 02:04 PM.

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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434087
12/17/21 02:05 PM
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It’s especially bad at my kids school. Last week the kids had what they called a “gangsta night” at the boys basketball game. It wasn’t a great idea. The newly hired girls basketball coach (who the media made sure to say was black) started pitching a fit and got the entire school labeled as “racist”. Therefore there were students from other schools saying that they were going to come to my kids’ school and kill all the “white cockroaches.” My kids aren’t in school today. Here’s an article written in the local paper. After doing some research we found that the author of the article and the girls basketball coach are avid supporters of blm.

https://www.pressconnects.com/story...tumes-cultural-appropriation/6461112001/

Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434088
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The goal is to terrify the impressionable minds of students, so that when they are old enough to vote, they allow their Second Amendment Rights to be stolen.

Keith

Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: KeithC] #7434095
12/17/21 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
The goal is to terrify the impressionable minds of students, so that when they are old enough to vote, they allow their Second Amendment Rights to be stolen.

Keith

yup all incremental , when I was in high school we went from legal to have guns in our trucks one year to it's a felony so we parked across the street

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 12/17/21 02:16 PM.

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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434098
12/17/21 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Wptourist
I would think the solution to this is to back track and determine who started the trend and prosecute. I would like to know who is stirring the pot and what they have to gain


They want to cause as much chaos and turmoil in the US and get th us dollar destabilized so their currency can rule the world!


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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434117
12/17/21 02:43 PM
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Our little school is playing it safe today and is in lockdown. Can’t believe we are dealing with crap like this. Only have one left in school and he is trained like his older brothers were. Unless someone in his immediate area needs help there is NO sheltering in place. Break a window and leave ASAP no matter what your teacher is telling you.


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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: 330-Trapper] #7434119
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Originally Posted by corky
TikTok is a Chinese Company :
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TikTok

Which Trump Was adamantly Against allowing here in the U.S.A.

For good reason too.
Tiktok admits they scan faces and objects in the video to gather info.

Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434125
12/17/21 02:53 PM
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the data shows the face book to be detrimental to the health and well being of 13yo

so FB hid the data they collected themselves cause 13yo is the perfect time to get them hooked so they bury the data and forget they run the study.

tick tock Instagram all in the same boat ,

they say the fastest way to make a woman feel better about her body is to quit Instagram.

Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 12/17/21 02:54 PM.

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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: KeithC] #7434126
12/17/21 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KeithC
The goal is to terrify the impressionable minds of students, so that when they are old enough to vote, they allow their Second Amendment Rights to be stolen.

Keith

There's probably the truth. These people think 5, 10 and 20 years out. You want to change a society (for good or bad) it starts with the kids.

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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434202
12/17/21 05:27 PM
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They lock the doors here. (pretty stupid if you ask me) We dont have a town cop. No clue how long it would take a deputy to get here and locate a key. If I am here and shooting starts I am driving my pickup through the double doors out front. That ought to bring a shooters attention to me. If my wife is here she will call 911 so hopefully a deputy doesn't shoot me by mistake. I seriously doubt that plan will have to be followed. With all the schools in this country odds are in the kids favor by a bunch. It never hurts to have a plan though.


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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434213
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locking the doors and restricting access from the outside is a good idea , all the doors have to open from the inside

cameras are a good idea

anything to slow them down and make their presence known is good

Avoid , Deny ,Defend .
avoid being seen , deny the shooter a target , defend if you have the tools or no other option.

we are sub 2 minutes response on any emergency average , we ran a full scale training at the school during break on how to best handle a school shooting involved agencies from all over the county , neighboring counties and the FBI even sent a guy

worked the fire and rescue response in even the school bus company has a role to play

if an officer just needs to sit and do paper work or make phone calls for a while they often park between the schools and do the paperwork from their squad officers have keys for the locked doors

it never hurts to have a plan

I am not opposed to armed teachers however there are very few teachers who would be good candidates to being armed. if there are any we should get them good training and make them ready as possible.


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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434223
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I am on the local school board. We had 250 kids gone today . Most because of this threat. We normally have only 30 gone. We are a k-12 school of about 990 kids in seat. So close to 1/4 gone today. They will continue to do this now that they see what they have succeeded in doing.

Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: Kong] #7434233
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Originally Posted by Kong
I am on the local school board. We had 250 kids gone today . Most because of this threat. We normally have only 30 gone. We are a k-12 school of about 990 kids in seat. So close to 1/4 gone today. They will continue to do this now that they see what they have succeeded in doing.

like the bomb threat thing , used as a free day off.


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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7434256
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
the data shows the face book to be detrimental to the health and well being of 13yo

so FB hid the data they collected themselves cause 13yo is the perfect time to get them hooked so they bury the data and forget they run the study.

tick tock Instagram all in the same boat ,

they say the fastest way to make a woman feel better about her body is to quit Instagram.

Agreed..... Kids shouldn't be on Facebook or tic tok. They should be playing and being kids. They only get one childhood and they're wasting it.

Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434299
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We have the technology to find the one that started this. They should be made an example of just like the swatters.


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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #7434396
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
locking the doors and restricting access from the outside is a good idea , all the doors have to open from the inside

cameras are a good idea

anything to slow them down and make their presence known is good


Locked schools are a good idea , not debating that. But the Sandy Hook shooter shot his way into the locked school by shooting out the panels of wire reinforced glass next to the doors. It only slowed him down for less than a minute. Then he encountered unarmed personnel which he dispatched quickly.

Israel does not have school shootings. They have armed personnel. It works. Having armed pilots and armed air marshals plus screening by the TSA works.

Putting police in every school permanently would work. One thing the media does not talk about is after Sandy Hook , the Newtown school district (which includes Sandy Hook) has police officers in all of their schools.

The anti-gun crowd does not want to do things that work , they want more school shootings to advance their cause.


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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434413
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whats good about a locked school? dumbest idea liberals have came up with yet. at least 7456 ways for a mad man to get a gun in and now l.e. is locked out.


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Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: yotetrapper30] #7434424
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What can you expect from kids who watched for four years shiff, nadler and pelosie , lie on national tv , daily, with no recource? If you were a kid in school and watched the govt try to impeach a President for being a person and letting millions cross the border illegally with no recourse, well, heck lets have us a little fun for free.

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Maybe these kids are onto something!

Re: National School Shooting Day [Re: danny clifton] #7434473
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
whats good about a locked school? dumbest idea liberals have came up with yet. at least 7456 ways for a mad man to get a gun in and now l.e. is locked out.


they are not locked out , here they all the cruisers have keys

they can go in any door they want without asking

it is about good planning

it forces all the visitors to come and go via the front door , which is covered by camera and the school secretary has the monitors above her desk , I would come to the school to pick up drop off or attend a meeting , the Secretary saw me coming as I was at the door it would buzz to let me in , even before I pushed the intercom button some times if she was expecting me. the office is not at the front door but it has a constant view from the parking lot to the office door via CCTV.

there was discussion of dispatch access to the school cctv , not sure if that happened but it was part of the discussion.


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