Re: Question for fly tiers?
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A hook vise and thread bobbin are must have tools. Local shops often offer classes cheap.
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Re: Question for fly tiers?
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I agree with Wright Brothers, the two tools you really need are a vise and bobbin. Classes are nice, some also do Beer Ties which can be fun social events as well as learning experiences. Or, if you're more like me, and want to teach yourself, I recommend reading "An Introduction to Fly Tying" by Peter Cockwill.
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Re: Question for fly tiers?
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I get a lot of materials from here www.jsflyfishing.com
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Re: Question for fly tiers?
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A home made hair stacker was another tool I used a lot. 21 walleyes on 21st B-day from jigs with my bucktail. Glad there were no beer classes then lol. Stonefly nymph and yellow jacket were my first good ones as a kid. I miss it.
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Re: Question for fly tiers?
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For a hair stacker I used a lip balm tube after you empty it out and remove the internal parts . Buy a cheap whip finisher at first also because later on you will realize you can finish off a fly or streamer quicker by just ushering your fingers doing the same movements ha ha A friend of mine made a fly fishing tray that I can mount my vice to and place any and all tools needed for fly tying all it needed was a garbage bag I used plastic grocery sacks .
As for feathers buy saddle hackles to start with and a mid grade Metz #2 to start with in what ever color needed a grizzled , Brown and Black will be good to start with , mono cord in black is good as are a quality pair of fiskar small scissors that have a sharp point and good size holes for your finger and thumb .
For thread buy some black mono and A mono cord the second works great once you start making hair flies and jigs it's much thicker and stronger . Well this is a good start and maribou feathers you can get a bag full at a craft store a small hair comb is also good to have to help remove the under fuzz when using hair in you flies . Be carefull this is as addictive as trapping after you catch your first fish with a hook you made it gets worse ha ha !
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Re: Question for fly tiers?
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I started tying several years ago. A mid-priced vise, a premium bobbin, good scissors, a whip finisher, and premium hooks are what I use today after several upgrades over the years. I also use Veevus thread almost exclusively - it's strong & tough! I was fishing for bluegill several years ago and had some cheap eBay flies with me. I would catch 2-3 fish, then get hits, but not hook up? lost the fly and tied on a new one. Same results. It finally hit me, check the hook sharpness! Dull, almost a blunt point. Switched to one of my hand tied flies (not as pretty, but a premium Daiichi hook, and caught 15-20 more bluegill on the same fly! Hooks are not the item to try to save money on!
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Re: Question for fly tiers?
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Lots of good info here. I will put in my two cents. Most materials are pretty cheap. Spend your money on a good vise. This is the backbone of a tying setup and if its marginal, everything else follows that way. Im not a fan of rotary vises. I would recommend this one. Vise. It’s cheap and has a good vise mechanism. Similar to something i tie with which is everything from 24 royal wolffs for no good reason to 4/0 trevally and pike flies. Get a good vise. Everything else can be cheap. Have fun with it
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Re: Question for fly tiers?
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Don't scrimp on a vice - and buy good hooks. (You won't be sorry) +lead weight that looks like string.(or a sink tip fly line) Forget the fly shop head cement and get some "Hard as Nails" clear nail polish. (Bluegills, panfish, stripers and bass will hit anything no matter how bad the tying job is - Trout are another story. (Been at this since my brother took me to AR in '85 - came home and sold all my bass fishing stuff and started tying flies and building rods - I've never looked back. LOL) Here's a couple of good places to shop - but there are tons of others. Hook and Hackle - https://www.hookhack.com/Anglers Workshop - http://www.anglersworkshop.com/
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Re: Question for fly tiers?
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Buck. Ive been using some of that stuff for minnow patterns for bass. Good stuff. Hope you guys dont mind the photos. I like looking at others. Hopefully it spurs some motivation. Been tying a bit in the evening between watching my newborn boy Laker season is soon. Match the hatch. Perch clouser Big fly for salt demons and pike Micro wolf. I dont know why Pike are hard on top round these parts. Trying to fix that Standard parachute. I dont get caught up in patterns. Light med dark and different sizes. Flies carch fish regardless of there name Grasshopper pattern ive been tweeking for years Baby Fat. A brushed dubbing minnow pattern with a bead hidden inside. Deadly on smallies
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