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Re: Sold to Grony [Re: The Beav] #7477137
01/29/22 01:03 AM
01/29/22 01:03 AM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
Those $10.00 coyotes must have been a lot better then my $2.00 coyotes I sold to Barnes. I recycled the last 5 coyotes I caught. My buddy has some deer ground and wants the coyotes gone so I'm helping out.

Even $10 isn't enough to make it worthwhile when ya factor the time involved to put up a coyote.

Re: Sold to Grony [Re: Mad Scientist] #7477139
01/29/22 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
Originally Posted by 080808
Not to defend Groney but for all you folks who CLAIM you get better prices I want to see a representative number of pelts with results in WRITING. Show me the color of your money!


7.37 for beaver and 3.50 for rats everything was Skun only.Groeny doesn’t rock this year.
U got $12 a coon ?

Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477143
01/29/22 01:12 AM
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3 coons totaled $12 coonman.

Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477159
01/29/22 01:29 AM
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Dirt-

Are you saying outside of your boreal species that we obviously don't have, the Midwest farmland has greater fur density per square mile than the "armpit"...?


Is this a secret?


C'mon man, you know that fur is dripping off of the boreal spruce trees!

But seriously, what does it say for restoration ecology theory and practice that as many places as possible have to be returned to "natural" conditions as possible? If Midwest farmland has more say beaver in a 100 sq. mile blocks than the armpit of AK, what does that say about landscape restoration?? Now some such ecologists and their supporters would say the the Midwest beaver pop is artificially sustained by all the ag nutrients that are imputed into the ecosystem and if they were taken away, all the extra stuff that farmland beavs are thriving on will fall away.

O maybe we can just admit that almost all ecosystems are now altered in some form by us and we get by managing what's now there the best we can? Of course, if I make that argument in many peer-reviewed journals, I'll never get published there again (not that those folks are my current gig). Take a look at Sniffy and the minions "30x30" plans or their "America the Beautiful" (more recent) and figure out how much is fairly decent that a lot of people could live with and how much is just aggressive ganga smoking fantasy?

At least on a personal scale, my dealing with such people currently has a 4 year over the horizon view. Or maybe less...who knows for sure in the end...


"And God said, Let us make man in our image �and let them have dominion �and all the creatures that move along the ground".
Genesis 1:26
Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477173
01/29/22 02:02 AM
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I would wager agriculture in the lower 48 is responsible for the high number of deer and coon, and probably many others.

But much of Alaska is hard up country, depending on location. For instance, here we have beaver coming out our eyeball's. No closed season we can hunt trap year round. Same with muskrats. Armpit has a seaon.

Our moose season is 9 months long, bag limit of two moose a season cow calf or bull. The Armpit has a month long season one bull limit probaly antler restrictions as well.
So its all dependent on location.

Trapping in Alaska is more work and more expensive for much less fur. No easy ditch trapping or trapping from the heated cab of a pickup with a sippy cup of coffee in your hand. Its more like cold, hard, work.

Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477178
01/29/22 02:35 AM
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Yes, "subsistence living" up there is just that, putting (most) of your food on the table and making coin from what you can gather. And Dirt and others have stated that many times, its not a hobby but butt tiring work. That's the reason why so few people actually live that way.

And full disclosure, I'm probably one of the hobbiest of the hobby trappers on here


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Genesis 1:26
Re: Sold to Grony [Re: Dirt] #7477187
01/29/22 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Dirt,

Ask Boco how to do it. He seems to be working it well.

My Georgia fur marketing methods probably wont help you much.


I don't want his advice or yours.

Seems like you need someone's advice as much as you complain about not making any money with that Alaskan fur...when you have the best product out there and still cant seem to make any $$.


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Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477190
01/29/22 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by 3togo
possum,
I knew things would be low. He asked, I told him I was hoping for a $15 average. I didn't keep any questionable coyotes, threw quite a few away. He said he could see they were all good but no way could he do $15. I thought about pulling out 4-5 of the lightest colored ones and sending to be tanned, but I can plan on that next year.

Saving grace is I have drainage ditches in ag land that pay $50 per beaver. I already have some $$ coming from that, but the season doesn't end until March 31, so I will have some time to see if any are left. The state park canal that runs through most of the state east to west has beavers. The state pays $20 per beav. About a mile from my house.

If the state auction was closer I would have pulled them and waited. But 3-1/2 hour drive one way, I would have lost in gas what I might have made.

I'll be planning for next season. Sorry, I didn't take any pics of the bunch finished, but they were as good as one can get in this area.

The ADC $$ keep us going. Thanks goodness for fawn-eating coyotes, egg-eating coons, and stream-blocking beavers.

Wait until I post what GFWC pays for this Georgia fur come March......it'll take the criticisms off of you. I guarantee it! Lol


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Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477341
01/29/22 10:00 AM
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Swamp Wolf, one more time. I can't make any decent money selling to the fur industry. on most species. Pretty common for AK trappers trying to make better money to market outside of the fur industry (Auctions/ Furbuyers). Been that way since the end of the boom.

Outside of prices similar to fur boom or better, this only gets worse.


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Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477365
01/29/22 10:24 AM
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It's enough to make a grown man cry.

Re: Sold to Grony [Re: AJE] #7477392
01/29/22 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by AJE
3 coons totaled $12 coonman.

Oh, I was thinking coon were up a little earlier an big wisc coon an had 3@$12! Pull few traps I had set tues with a rat is it, was thinking set 2 fishhead sets this morning for 1 day, a little warmer Tonite, but for 1 day, even if close home, an easy, not real hot location, plus was there forever earlier with other sets an minimal catches, plus got sniffles an hope all it is an not want get worse , especally before funureal I got go to next week early , probly forget it an get ready meet groenwold soon, I usally quit trapping the 2 ND day before end season , what if pickup breaks down? In shop an can't get to traps an season closed or other a emergency, get hurt work ? Work Monday , not likely but could happen, a year ago, drifting snow an big drifts this morning, pull few had with coon an rat , sun was last day a year ago, went to get gas an smelt coolant or oil, went home an pop hood, coolant all over, has tow in next day to shop, no work, miss, had prettner $1000 bill end day for what wrong an found bunch other stuff fix an parts, the owner was ask me If still trapping an I say done , said couldn't loan out loaned truck to go country trapping an just home an work , not likely but things can happen

Re: Sold to Grony [Re: Boco] #7477451
01/29/22 11:29 AM
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Have not heard anything.

With two sales schedule they will have a lot of unsold goods from the March sale.

Would not be wise for them to dump goods until after the second pickup routes are run.

A lot of guys are shipping this year because of the falling market, I predict a lot of unhappy campers come March.

Will probably be a bloodbath after the June sale. Last year they hadn't even finished the Aug sale and they PT everything they could.

Not a big enough operate to store a lot of inventory.

[/quote]
I hope they sell everything for market price.
If you want to store fur store it in your freezer at home.[/quote]

Has anyone calculated what it costs to hold fur in a freezer at home for a season, year or what ever?


NCTA, FTA, FBU,NTA
Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477489
01/29/22 11:58 AM
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Might be kind of hard to do for some, Mac. For example, I've held fur over in a freezer that had other stuff in it and was going to run anyway, so in that case I figured no real cost.

Re: Sold to Grony [Re: trapdog1] #7477529
01/29/22 12:42 PM
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We sold rats Friday January 28th to Weibke in LaCrosse
My trapping partner sold 689 rat with a $3.93 average. I don't have his exact breakdown. He shipped 33 rats for the March FHA sale about half and half good and poorer rats

I sold 371 rats with the following breakdowns I shipped 25 rats, my 8 mink and 8 coons for the March FHA sale. These were all better through the ice rats
Average $3.95
48 3xl at $5
154 2xl at $4.50
121 xl at $3.50
15 slights at $3.00
15 large at $2.50
14 mediums at $1.50
3 kits at $1.00 My poorest 30 rats were in this 371

Bryce

Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477532
01/29/22 12:44 PM
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Thats a nice average.


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Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477542
01/29/22 12:53 PM
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Not worth the gas to drive there.

Im not going to trap beaver to only cut out their castors

Re: Sold to Grony [Re: coonman220] #7477551
01/29/22 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by coonman220
Originally Posted by AJE
3 coons totaled $12 coonman.

Oh, I was thinking coon were up a little earlier an big wisc coon an had 3@$12! Pull few traps I had set tues with a rat is it, was thinking set 2 fishhead sets this morning for 1 day, a little warmer Tonite, but for 1 day, even if close home, an easy, not real hot location, plus was there forever earlier with other sets an minimal catches, plus got sniffles an hope all it is an not want get worse , especally before funureal I got go to next week early , probly forget it an get ready meet groenwold soon, I usally quit trapping the 2 ND day before end season , what if pickup breaks down? In shop an can't get to traps an season closed or other a emergency, get hurt work ? Work Monday , not likely but could happen, a year ago, drifting snow an big drifts this morning, pull few had with coon an rat , sun was last day a year ago, went to get gas an smelt coolant or oil, went home an pop hood, coolant all over, has tow in next day to shop, no work, miss, had prettner $1000 bill end day for what wrong an found bunch other stuff fix an parts, the owner was ask me If still trapping an I say done , said couldn't loan out loaned truck to go country trapping an just home an work , not likely but things can happen


Dang, theres a country song in this post. Sniffles, funeral, missed work, broke down truck

Re: Sold to Grony [Re: ILcooner] #7477567
01/29/22 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ILcooner
Not worth the gas to drive there.

Same problem for me. I'm not going to drive more than 20 miles out of my way in this market to sell fur to any buyers.

Last edited by AJE; 01/29/22 01:25 PM.
Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477709
01/29/22 04:06 PM
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I'm sure most already know this, but maybe listing your own fur on the famous auction website is the way to go. I was checking out prices and there are lots of sales for untanned pelts, just make sure you have good pictures including of the skin on the other side. You could make some money tanning, but only in batches of 100x the species to get a low price at Moyles. Last tip for the famous auction website is to start everything off at penny sales with NO RESERVE. You have to be willing to lose 1 or 2 out of 20 furs at a low price, but typically penny auctions net the best sales.

Come down to the swamp, where it's hot, extremely humid, everyday is a wet day. Almost everyday you are walking a long way to get a short distance if you don't have a boat. Every climate has it cons and pros, but for me i'd rather be down here personally.

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Re: Sold to Grony [Re: 3togo] #7477712
01/29/22 04:13 PM
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alot of people saying groney or auction is there only options....there are 2 or 3 buyers here in trapshed paying higher prices then being posted here....shop around!!!

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