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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7478308
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I’m not sure but I have some #3 PIT pans in the shop and a #2 hanging up, I’ll put them together and see if it looks viable.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7478727
01/30/22 03:02 PM
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I believe the frame clip on the #3 PIT kit will be too large for the frame of the #2. Looking on F&T's website there is no kit that I could see for the smaller diameter frames on the smaller traps. They are all for the larger traps, at least what they stock anyway. I don't know if a smaller diameter clip/kit is made by PIT or not.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: yote65Ga] #7478733
01/30/22 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by grey55
I believe the frame clip on the #3 PIT kit will be too large for the frame of the #2. Looking on F&T's website there is no kit that I could see for the smaller diameter frames on the smaller traps. They are all for the larger traps, at least what they stock anyway. I don't know if a smaller diameter clip/kit is made by PIT or not.

Give Ed a call he will fix you up.

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7478871
01/30/22 05:33 PM
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Thanks


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7478968
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How many of you use long springs for canine trapping?

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7479354
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I will do more in the future. I believe the longsprings will keep working better than coils in freeze thaw conditions with less expense.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: canebrake] #7479357
01/30/22 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by canebrake
How many of you use long springs for canine trapping?

All I use


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7480256
01/31/22 08:13 PM
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I don't know about anybody else but when I get my hands on a double longspring I just get more excited than when handling a coilspring. I guess its all the history behind them and the trapping I did in my youth with them. Just makes me smile every time.

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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: yote65Ga] #7480506
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Originally Posted by grey55
I don't know about anybody else but when I get my hands on a double longspring I just get more excited than when handling a coilspring. I guess its all the history behind them and the trapping I did in my youth with them. Just makes me smile every time.

Definitely!


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: yote65Ga] #7481386
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Originally Posted by grey55
I don't know about anybody else but when I get my hands on a double longspring I just get more excited than when handling a coilspring. I guess its all the history behind them and the trapping I did in my youth with them. Just makes me smile every time.


I’ve recently gotten the bug and definitely like handling the double longspring traps more than the coil spring traps.

Just finished modifying 4 Bridger #4’s for cat trapping. Welded a cover plate to the pans and offset them. I painted 2 of the pans and used sawdust for grit and wired a piece of shingle to the other. I’ve got just enough of the season left to try them out. I can’t wait!

[Linked Image]


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7482711
02/02/22 08:44 PM
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That trap looks great. I've got some #4 Bridgers on the way myself. Can't wait to get my hands on them. Even though my season is about over and I didn't trap much this season because of family obligations, I will be getting more than a few double longs ready for next season.

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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7487456
02/06/22 08:40 PM
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Anybody ever convert the Sleepy Creek 1 1/2 long spring to a #2? The jaws are asymmetrical which seems like it may cause a problem.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: AKAjust] #7488534
02/07/22 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by AKAjust
Just found this thread. Those of you thinking of using #2 for coon are in for a disapointment. They chew out. Been trapping for ni on to 40 years and stopped using 2s for coon the 2nd year.
just

Yes they will.

Best long spring coon trap ever is the old Blake and Lamb #1 with the rounded spring. Never pass them up if you see them. I believe it was in a Jim Helfrich book about coon trapping. Boy was he right on. Those little devils hold like a vise. They’re light, easy to use, and too small to chew out.. I like 11’s too but they are heavier, more expensive, and take up more space.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: bhugo] #7488624
02/07/22 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bhugo
Originally Posted by AKAjust
Just found this thread. Those of you thinking of using #2 for coon are in for a disapointment. They chew out. Been trapping for ni on to 40 years and stopped using 2s for coon the 2nd year.
just

Yes they will.

Best long spring coon trap ever is the old Blake and Lamb #1 with the rounded spring. Never pass them up if you see them. I believe it was in a Jim Helfrich book about coon trapping. Boy was he right on. Those little devils hold like a vise. They’re light, easy to use, and too small to chew out.. I like 11’s too but they are heavier, more expensive, and take up more space.


Not sure what you mean by a rounded spring. Anyone have any pics of one? How do the new #1 longsprings compare?


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: yote65Ga] #7488629
02/07/22 09:41 PM
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Where the spring is bent it is more rounded vs. more pointed. I don’t know how to post pics. I’ll look for a link.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7488652
02/07/22 09:56 PM
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https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/qIoAAOSwRaFh7gds/s-l1600.jpg

This is one with a rounded spring. See how round the bend is. Plus the spring is very short and compact.

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/Te4AAOSwKX9h8PzC/s-l1600.jpg

This is a more pointed spring and it’s quite a bit longer.

Both good traps, but the short rounded spring is unusually strong.

You can add a lighting helper spring in any other longspring and beef it up too, but that is an extra expense and weight.

Victor also made a shorter spring long #1. It wasn’t as rounded, but is was better than the longer version I believe. Not as strong as the Blake and Lamb. I think the short victor springs stayed stronger than the longer victor springs though. Just anecdotal evidence rom my experience though.

Hope the links work.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7489565
02/08/22 07:57 PM
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Ok bhugo. That explains it perfectly. Thanks.


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: Snares&All] #7489613
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I posted these before, but thought I'd add them here
[Linked Image]
I was looking for a little more speed so I used an angle grinder with a 1/16" wheel and then a 1/8" wheel to take some weight off.

[Linked Image]
I added heavy s/s screen to finish them off.
The more I use them the more I like them

Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: wetdog] #7489768
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Originally Posted by wetdog
I posted these before, but thought I'd add them here
[Linked Image]
I was looking for a little more speed so I used an angle grinder with a 1/16" wheel and then a 1/8" wheel to take some weight off.

[Linked Image]
I added heavy s/s screen to finish them off.
The more I use them the more I like them


Sexy looking trap!


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Re: The great double longspring thread! [Re: wetdog] #7508063
02/24/22 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wetdog
I posted these before, but thought I'd add them here
[Linked Image]
I was looking for a little more speed so I used an angle grinder with a 1/16" wheel and then a 1/8" wheel to take some weight off.

[Linked Image]
I added heavy s/s screen to finish them off.
The more I use them the more I like them


Those do look good.


This afternoon was the first time I ever set any dls and I think that's all I'm going to use from now on for bobcats. No messing around bedding them, they're rock solid as soon as you set them down. I only bought four because I wasn't sure if I would like them, guess I'll be ordering some more.


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