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Re: Duke 850 [Re: trappergbus] #8093723
03/06/24 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by trappergbus
Has anyone caught a wolf in one yet?

I've caught five in them. One by three toes with 8+ inches of snow over the trap, the others all deep pad catches. No misses, you do usually have to straighten the dog after a catch, but I haven't seen a dog on wolf trap yet where that isn't true. I like them and recommend them, there are better wolf traps out there, and some will need a little tweaking out of the box, but for the price point I think they are the best wolf trap in their price range.

Not a fan of the new tension adjustable pans, but then I haven't used them, just looked at them. I'm using all original floppy pans, I don't like the looks of those big collars with a lot of tight joints there for water to potentially get in and freeze.

Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #8093734
03/06/24 10:35 AM
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Im kinda surprised they did not go with a PIT style pan. They already use one on their #5 long.. Seems like it would have been a good fit for that trap, maybe because the dog would have been so long is why?? Though PIT had extra stout dogs for wolf traps at one time.. Dont know if they still do

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Re: Duke 850 [Re: bearcat2] #8093952
03/06/24 04:57 PM
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I agree 100% on all points -I saw a video a guy cut the bar the pan is on and welded in a piece of all thread with nuts on it to adjust pan tension and another one where a guy discarded the whole pan spring bar and went back with 3/8 bolts for springs and levers and welded a piece of pipe in to hold pan with a bolt running through the pipe and pan the latter looks way better imo and only takes 3 bolts and a short piece of pipe . a guy could also just cut the bar and tap on end for nuts & weld a washer on the other but bolts are fairly cheap if your times worth anything. I took some 650s and 850s apart today to check and see if the D rings were welded -they are . not great but enough I guess I put one in the vise and pried on it pretty good and it held . I was gonna thread the ends of the bars on the 850s and add nuts but after checking them out I dont think its needed -even if wolfzilla knawed the helper springs loose the primary side would still hold -pretty strong springs


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Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #8094560
03/07/24 02:31 PM
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I threaded all mine and put nylock nuts on the ends, probably unnecessary but cheap and easy to do for peace of mind. Plus I already had the die.

Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #8095291
03/08/24 11:52 AM
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Ten wolves in 850s so far this year, flawless performance. Perfect pad catches. That said…… it will never out perform a Alaska #9 but is another tool in tool box. Have had bent dogs and pans. But I will trade a bent dog or pan any day for a wolf . The only pans I have never had damaged are LPC and 114.
Wolf traps in order of choice.
#9 above all else
Duke 850
MB 750 (these are perfect for footprint sets)
LPC and 114 (these are equals)
CDR, Bridger, TS85
I haven’t caught one in a No BS yet. But no doubt it will work well too.

Just my opinion and worth exactly what you paid for it.


GUK.....it's the sound they make when they hit the end of the cable
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #8097921
03/11/24 08:19 PM
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I haven't used the LPC, 114 or CDR so I can't comment on them. Otherwise I would agree with GUK's list except I would swap the MB750s and my modified TS85s and add the Sleepy Creek 4 1/2 just above the MB 750 and below everything else. Those two are a good dry ground trap in my opinion, but the poorest of the list in freeze/thaw and deeper snow conditions. I will also note that they are very easy on nontargets while the #9, NOBS (which I haven't used, but is very popular in the lower 48, undoubtedly the most often recommended in Idaho and Montana) and modded TS85 need to be set with a lot of caution where nontargets are a concern.

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