Strictly Trapping


No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers *** No Politics
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Trading Post
(Please support F&T Trading Post, our sponsor for the Trapping Only Forum)



TrappersPost
Please support Trappers post, a sponsor of the Strictly Trapping Forum



Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Duke 850 #7498837
02/16/22 09:20 PM
02/16/22 09:20 PM
Joined: Nov 2012
Iowa
C
CoonNfoxtrapper Offline OP
trapper
CoonNfoxtrapper  Offline OP
trapper
C

Joined: Nov 2012
Iowa
Anyone played with these much? I notice 4 coiled they are way way to strong but 2 coiled they feel on the weaker side wondering if anyone plans to run these 2 coiled for beaver? I did add some #3 4coil springs and that seemed to help with out getting obnoxiously hard to set

Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7499171
02/17/22 01:54 AM
02/17/22 01:54 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Wisconsin
T
The Beav Offline
trapper
The Beav  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Wisconsin
I have one but I can't set It and It's illegal to use In WI. But It's a well built trap.


The forum Know It All according to Muskrat
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7499186
02/17/22 02:47 AM
02/17/22 02:47 AM
Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
B
bearcat2 Online content
trapper
bearcat2  Online Content
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
Interested to see how they perform on wolves, the price is right, but I haven't seen one in person yet.

Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7500128
02/18/22 12:25 AM
02/18/22 12:25 AM
Joined: Jan 2020
Aliceville, Kansas 45
Yukon John Offline
trapper
Yukon John  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2020
Aliceville, Kansas 45
So does the 850 have an 8.5" jaw spread? I get wolves, but what in the world else would one trap with those? If you say beaver, then I'll just ask if it's necessary, not trolling just curious.


Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7500161
02/18/22 01:30 AM
02/18/22 01:30 AM
Joined: Jan 2022
Eastern W by God V
Crowfoot Offline
trapper
Crowfoot  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2022
Eastern W by God V
8.5" outside, 8.0" inside, OS for wolf and lion, FJ for beaver. ... so the ads read.
Alan Probst has a short video introducing them, in MT I think, says the law there is minimum 10lb pan tension.

Re: Duke 850 [Re: Crowfoot] #7500176
02/18/22 02:14 AM
02/18/22 02:14 AM
Joined: Jan 2020
Aliceville, Kansas 45
Yukon John Offline
trapper
Yukon John  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2020
Aliceville, Kansas 45
Originally Posted by Crowfoot
8.5" outside, 8.0" inside, OS for wolf and lion, FJ for beaver. ... so the ads read.
Alan Probst has a short video introducing them, in MT I think, says the law there is minimum 10lb pan tension.

Thanks


Act like a blank, get treated like a blank. Insert your own blank!
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7503634
02/21/22 08:55 AM
02/21/22 08:55 AM
Joined: Apr 2012
Southern Michigan
T
trappergbus Offline
trapper
trappergbus  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Apr 2012
Southern Michigan
Has anyone caught a wolf in one yet?


Common sense catches alot of fur..
Pay homage to all you harvest..
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7503936
02/21/22 02:02 PM
02/21/22 02:02 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Wisconsin
T
The Beav Offline
trapper
The Beav  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Wisconsin
I just talked to Mr Bill and he was In Ketchican Alaska not long ago and quite a few trappers had caught wolves In the 850 and were pleased with the traps performance. I think It was a trapper from Prince Of Wales Island that caught the first wolf In a 850. And Mr Bill has that wolf hanging In the office.
Daniel Peters (sp)name comes to mind in our conversation.


The forum Know It All according to Muskrat
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7503984
02/21/22 02:41 PM
02/21/22 02:41 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
B
bearcat2 Online content
trapper
bearcat2  Online Content
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
I would like to here a report and opinions from anybody who has caught a wolf in one. But the guys I've talked to that have them haven't caught one in one yet.

Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7504269
02/21/22 08:00 PM
02/21/22 08:00 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Wisconsin
T
The Beav Offline
trapper
The Beav  Offline
trapper
T

Joined: Dec 2006
Wisconsin
Call Bill Duke and I'm sure he could give you names of persons that have caught wolves In the 850.
If yo don't have the # PM me and I'll give It to you.


The forum Know It All according to Muskrat
Re: Duke 850 [Re: Crowfoot] #7504535
02/22/22 01:25 AM
02/22/22 01:25 AM
Joined: Oct 2014
montana
R
red mt Offline
trapper
red mt  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Oct 2014
montana
Originally Posted by Crowfoot
8.5" outside, 8.0" inside, OS for wolf and lion, FJ for beaver. ... so the ads read.
Alan Probst has a short video introducing them, in MT I think, says the law there is minimum 10lb pan tension.

There is a quick trick of adding screw and nut on the pan will like most traps to get you to the pan tension weight you would like if you must have more the bent dog will give you.
I did it to there 650s because 3.5 to 4 lbs is not enough for me trapping coyotes but I sold them I was scaleing back on traps.
Red


Kenneth schoening
Re: Duke 850 [Re: trappergbus] #7505142
02/22/22 04:58 PM
02/22/22 04:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2019
Custer Co, Idaho
S
sneaky Offline
trapper
sneaky  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Oct 2019
Custer Co, Idaho
Originally Posted by trappergbus
Has anyone caught a wolf in one yet?

Yeah, they've caught a bunch in them in Alaska. Haven't talked to anyone here in Idaho yet that has, but I know that time is coming.


Sometimes nothing can be a real cool hand
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7505308
02/22/22 07:49 PM
02/22/22 07:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2020
montana
J
JBS Offline
trapper
JBS  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Feb 2020
montana
I bought reds 650s and used a couple of the bolts from the 650s on 850s. I am convinced that is the easiest most repeatable method to get pan tension. I got one 850 to 10lbs by bending the dog but it is a very iterative process. As Seldom pointed out to me in another thread the fulcrum point is more important than the slope of the dog. Getting the pan tension idea from red and some free trapping advice was worth the price of the traps.
JBS

Re: Duke 850 [Re: JBS] #7506006
02/23/22 10:55 AM
02/23/22 10:55 AM
Joined: Jan 2009
Wyoming
WindRiver Offline
trapper
WindRiver  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2009
Wyoming
Can you post a picture of the nut/bolt mod on the 650/850's?


"Skin that one pilgrim and I'll getcha'nother"
Re: Duke 850 [Re: WindRiver] #7506023
02/23/22 11:18 AM
02/23/22 11:18 AM
Joined: Oct 2014
montana
R
red mt Offline
trapper
red mt  Offline
trapper
R

Joined: Oct 2014
montana
Originally Posted by WindRiver
Can you post a picture of the nut/bolt mod on the 650/850's?

Cascadecat made it simple by drilling a hole on the arms taking bolt and nut tighten to pan tension you would like. Very simple fix
JBS got them now


Kenneth schoening
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7506547
02/23/22 07:01 PM
02/23/22 07:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2020
montana
J
JBS Offline
trapper
JBS  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Feb 2020
montana
This should show you the concept.

Screenshot_20220223-155703_Gallery.jpg
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7506607
02/23/22 07:51 PM
02/23/22 07:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2009
Wyoming
WindRiver Offline
trapper
WindRiver  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2009
Wyoming
Thanks


"Skin that one pilgrim and I'll getcha'nother"
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7506691
02/23/22 08:39 PM
02/23/22 08:39 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf Offline
trapper
Swamp Wolf  Offline
trapper

Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
That "mod" looks like crap. But...if it works.....


Thank God For Your Blessings!
Never Half-Arse Anything!

Resource Protection Service

Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #7521205
03/08/22 03:28 AM
03/08/22 03:28 AM
Joined: Nov 2012
Iowa
C
CoonNfoxtrapper Offline OP
trapper
CoonNfoxtrapper  Offline OP
trapper
C

Joined: Nov 2012
Iowa
Lots of good info Thanks everyone. I'm hoping to set my 850 soon for some beaver and yes bigger the trap the better in my opinion for beaver I love ts85a but bought 1 duke 850 to play with.

Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #8093473
03/05/24 10:07 PM
03/05/24 10:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2024
Montana
Willoughby Offline
trapper
Willoughby  Offline
trapper

Joined: Feb 2024
Montana
Duke will send you actual pan tensioners for the 850s free of charge if you call them up -they come with a new pan and spring bar with what looks like a drill stop collar welded to each leg of pan that have allen screws that tighten against the spring bar 662-494-6767

Last edited by Willoughby; 03/05/24 10:08 PM.

if your lucky enough to live in the BIG woods your lucky enough
Re: Duke 850 [Re: trappergbus] #8093723
03/06/24 11:14 AM
03/06/24 11:14 AM
Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
B
bearcat2 Online content
trapper
bearcat2  Online Content
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
Originally Posted by trappergbus
Has anyone caught a wolf in one yet?

I've caught five in them. One by three toes with 8+ inches of snow over the trap, the others all deep pad catches. No misses, you do usually have to straighten the dog after a catch, but I haven't seen a dog on wolf trap yet where that isn't true. I like them and recommend them, there are better wolf traps out there, and some will need a little tweaking out of the box, but for the price point I think they are the best wolf trap in their price range.

Not a fan of the new tension adjustable pans, but then I haven't used them, just looked at them. I'm using all original floppy pans, I don't like the looks of those big collars with a lot of tight joints there for water to potentially get in and freeze.

Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #8093734
03/06/24 11:35 AM
03/06/24 11:35 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
East, Kentucky
KYBOY Offline
trapper
KYBOY  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2006
East, Kentucky
Im kinda surprised they did not go with a PIT style pan. They already use one on their #5 long.. Seems like it would have been a good fit for that trap, maybe because the dog would have been so long is why?? Though PIT had extra stout dogs for wolf traps at one time.. Dont know if they still do

Last edited by KYBOY; 03/06/24 11:37 AM.

Deep in the heart of Appalachia....
Re: Duke 850 [Re: bearcat2] #8093952
03/06/24 05:57 PM
03/06/24 05:57 PM
Joined: Feb 2024
Montana
Willoughby Offline
trapper
Willoughby  Offline
trapper

Joined: Feb 2024
Montana
I agree 100% on all points -I saw a video a guy cut the bar the pan is on and welded in a piece of all thread with nuts on it to adjust pan tension and another one where a guy discarded the whole pan spring bar and went back with 3/8 bolts for springs and levers and welded a piece of pipe in to hold pan with a bolt running through the pipe and pan the latter looks way better imo and only takes 3 bolts and a short piece of pipe . a guy could also just cut the bar and tap on end for nuts & weld a washer on the other but bolts are fairly cheap if your times worth anything. I took some 650s and 850s apart today to check and see if the D rings were welded -they are . not great but enough I guess I put one in the vise and pried on it pretty good and it held . I was gonna thread the ends of the bars on the 850s and add nuts but after checking them out I dont think its needed -even if wolfzilla knawed the helper springs loose the primary side would still hold -pretty strong springs


if your lucky enough to live in the BIG woods your lucky enough
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #8094560
03/07/24 03:31 PM
03/07/24 03:31 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
B
bearcat2 Online content
trapper
bearcat2  Online Content
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
I threaded all mine and put nylock nuts on the ends, probably unnecessary but cheap and easy to do for peace of mind. Plus I already had the die.

Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #8095291
03/08/24 12:52 PM
03/08/24 12:52 PM
Joined: Mar 2013
Interior Alaska
G
GUK Offline
trapper
GUK  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Mar 2013
Interior Alaska
Ten wolves in 850s so far this year, flawless performance. Perfect pad catches. That said…… it will never out perform a Alaska #9 but is another tool in tool box. Have had bent dogs and pans. But I will trade a bent dog or pan any day for a wolf . The only pans I have never had damaged are LPC and 114.
Wolf traps in order of choice.
#9 above all else
Duke 850
MB 750 (these are perfect for footprint sets)
LPC and 114 (these are equals)
CDR, Bridger, TS85
I haven’t caught one in a No BS yet. But no doubt it will work well too.

Just my opinion and worth exactly what you paid for it.


GUK.....it's the sound they make when they hit the end of the cable
Re: Duke 850 [Re: CoonNfoxtrapper] #8097921
03/11/24 09:19 PM
03/11/24 09:19 PM
Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
B
bearcat2 Online content
trapper
bearcat2  Online Content
trapper
B

Joined: Oct 2011
Idaho
I haven't used the LPC, 114 or CDR so I can't comment on them. Otherwise I would agree with GUK's list except I would swap the MB750s and my modified TS85s and add the Sleepy Creek 4 1/2 just above the MB 750 and below everything else. Those two are a good dry ground trap in my opinion, but the poorest of the list in freeze/thaw and deeper snow conditions. I will also note that they are very easy on nontargets while the #9, NOBS (which I haven't used, but is very popular in the lower 48, undoubtedly the most often recommended in Idaho and Montana) and modded TS85 need to be set with a lot of caution where nontargets are a concern.

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

Moderated by  Drifter, Wolfdog91 

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1