Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/21/22 09:20 AM
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When you get a chance post some pictures of those fawns as adults. Here is what one of those fawns turned out to be Rick. This is why I kill the fawn killers. This buck was 7.5 years old and scored in the mid 80’s. I’ll most likely post up a bit more deer content here and there along with the coyote trapping photos since one directly affects the other.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/21/22 05:12 PM
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Luckily, I’ve avoided getting a rump roast full of needles Mr. Jameson. The pear usually gets me on the side of the calf just above the boot when we’re pulling one of those bucks out of the brush. Every animal that lives here is full of pear needles. They work their way through the skin and lay flat stuck to the inside of the hide. It makes skinning even more fun than ever! I just did a remake this morning and used one of my favorite lures from your line. Prairie King has taken some big adult males down along the border.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/21/22 06:09 PM
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I’ve had the same results with prairie king here. Adult male killer. I thought stick tights and cuckle burrs were bad. Can’t imagine having to deal with cactus. Ouch.
I'm itchin' to see a coyote twitchin'.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/21/22 10:11 PM
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Most of your photos show there’s not much around. That’s because there isn’t much around WB. I run a wide open pattern on all my sets. Any attempted blocking or guiding here will often result in a refusal or balk. An open pattern void of backing and fencing gets the most foot traffic by far. I give the coyote all the space he needs to work the set on his terms. You can’t force a coyote to step somewhere he doesn’t want to. I'll put up a few sets in the coming days so you can get a better idea. They’re nothing fancy, but they are effective.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/22/22 08:04 AM
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I played a few chess matches with this gal. She defeated several of my flats a few days in a row like she watched me make them. She wasn't real old but she had game. Her mother taught her well. These are the coyotes you learn from. Female – Flat Set – MB Fox Urine – Winter Wolf It looked like this female was in season, but the ground didn’t show any signs of male suitors except for one calling card about twenty yards away. If there would have been more sign additional traps would have been set. Female - Flat Set – MB Fox Urine - Coyotero The young lady was nice enough to provide me with some fresh bait in the form of regurgitated meat. The poop and meat on location were both used at the remake set. No lure was used since it looked like she was in heat. The original flat set would have looked the same as far as the absence of backing and guiding is concerned. The attractants used are often what is found on site like in the above set. Attractant location and type can vary widely, but the spacing usually stays within eight inches of the pan.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/22/22 08:44 AM
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Tejas, Your methods and tactics are very similar to mine. Some good info you're providing here to those that pay attention.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/22/22 09:53 AM
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Nice work James, I dug 2 holes this season both caught racoon LOL .. Flat sets rock! You have sand I have snow to see everything that happens that no book can teach. Good info bud.
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/22/22 12:08 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to make this thread Tejas. You take great pictures too.
I was wondering, if you are on a 'kill em all' type approach, and have to deal with super wary coyotes, have you considered using 2 traps at each set instead of one? I'm sure you have plenty of reasons why NOT, but was just curious.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/23/22 07:03 AM
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Tejas, Some good info you're providing here to those that pay attention. Lots of great knowledge on here from you and guys like steeltraps,swampwolf and even that savage savell. Always pick up a little something from these posts. Thanks for the kind words Swamp & Sask. It would be good to see some of the trappers that normally remain quiet on the forum pull up a stump and sit by the fire a spell. There are some great coyote trappers on T-Man that never seem to post up much for whatever their reasons may be. On the flipside there are folks new to the game that may be a little hesitant to chime in or ask a question because of their lack of experience. T-Man benefits the trapping community in many ways. The least we could do is give back to the site by sharing just a bit of our time and knowledge in return. We can all contribute in our own way by adding good content and asking questions. I realize a lot of wolfers like to keep their cards close to the vest for the most part, but we can still discuss many aspects of coyote trapping without showing our hand. Hopefully some of the content posted up here will generate a few informative discussions on trapping Wile E. That’s more than enough preachin’. Let’s get back to the coyote killin’.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/23/22 07:18 AM
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Flat sets rock!
You have sand I have snow to see everything that happens that no book can teach. Good info bud. You Betcha G! The coyote line is the classroom and the daily lesson is written on the ground. The ability to read that sign is perhaps the most important skill of all.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/23/22 08:19 AM
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As always a good thread with pictures and content.Coyotes are coyote where ever they live,but it's interesting how in some states or parts {areas}of those states that different sets out preform others.Many states and of or areas dirt hole do very well and other places they get little intrest other than non target animals,skunk,coon and possom.My guess on this is population of coyotes and the pressure being put on them.I will use KS for an example coyote meca,dirt holes work very well,high popluation,my guess is if you have the numbers it's easier for you to have success if you have 5 to 10 maybe more coming by your well picked locations in a few days than maybe 1 to 3 coyotes or less.Each season I do catch coyotes in a hole type set,deeper slide in trench set more of a natural canine digging,if we have a better popluation meaning more pups hole sets do pretty well.Our pup numbers seem to be decent about 3 to 4 times in a 10 year period,I have better luck with flat sets here and unless I pre dig trench our ground freezes pretty early most years,so flat sets are easier to make.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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02/23/22 08:51 AM
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I played a few chess matches with this gal .She wasn't real old but she had game. Excellent observation. It is eye opening and quite interesting the instincts that animals possess. Many of these instincts are innate IMO and not always learned. I have seen it many times with Beaver and Coyotes particularly. Just when you think you have them all figured out they keep you guessing. Persistence usually pays off in most cases with an innovative trapper. Mr. Jameson, you have made some great posts on every aspect of trapping, and I always pay close attention when you have something to say. As trappers we would like to rationalize every movement the coyote made at the set. You soon realize that while some moves are very calculated and repeated others are so random it makes your head hurt. Trying to call an audible on what the defense is doing is like throwing a Hail Mary. You are absolutely right. In the end, persistence and thinking outside the box will will usually get the job done
Almost every one of my problem coyotes has been an adult female. They can wreak havoc on a line. The only chink in their armor is that they like to play the game. That's what gets them in trouble. In many cases, shortly after I catch a problem female I pick up a young female that the adult had in tow. There's no doubt in my mind that the youngster was kept out of trouble to some extent by following her mother’s lead. I can’t help but think there was a bit education going on there. The question remains whether the behavior is inherent or learned.
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