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Re: Propaganda
[Re: Wingshot]
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02/27/22 11:48 AM
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The US is being “reactive” to a situation that could have been avoided altogether. De-escalation would begin this morning if Brandon would tear the lid off our energy sector and guarantee the EU that we will sell them all the fuel the could ever need. It all goes back to the very first day of the administration and the dismantling of our energy production. Now the horse is out of the barn and God help us all.
Brandon has been doing everything he can to push them to use Russian resources. Killed the Eastern Mediterranean pipeline and ok'd Putin's pipeline. Wonder which president is under Putin's thumb???? For those that haven't heard of the Eastern pipeline... https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/18232/israel-europe-gas-pipeline
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: MattLA]
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02/27/22 11:53 AM
02/27/22 11:53 AM
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Question......is most of what we're hearing on the news about the Russian-ukraine thing propaganda of some sort? I keep seeing how the Russians are doing poorly, they're underfunded, they're evil, Ukraine is holding them off, blah blah blah. But come on, now.... Russia is a major world power, and Ukraine is a small European country with an underfunded military relying on the US for weapons. There's no way they can possibly win this thing, right? Russia doesn't seem to be (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman)-footing around like the US military was forced to do in Afghanistan (and that's no knock on the US military, we're the best in the world, we just weren't allowed to fight like it). Russia seems to be giving it their all.
So is all this stuff I'm seeing in the news just propaganda designed to instill support for Ukraine, and to instill a belief that Russia can be beaten, in order to encourage support for the US getting more involved eventually? Not propaganda, you vastly overestimate Russia, who I am going to say yet again, has not fought a major war in 70 years. There is no design to instill support for Ukraine, it's very simple. If you support freedom, you support Ukraine. You also are very mistaken if you don't think that the USA is involved heavily, we are doing everything short of moving conventional forces into Ukraine. When an opponent has a sheer will to win, all bets are off and this is exactly what you are seeing combined with superior US and allied equipment helping them. Russia has not been "superpower" status since the 80s and have been sanctioned off and on since the 90s, something you have to understand takes an effect in the long run. How is it that our inside info on a war in Ukraine comes thru Louisiana?
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: loosegoose]
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02/27/22 11:54 AM
02/27/22 11:54 AM
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Oh Snap
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The world is turning against Russia….EXCEPT China, North Korea, Iran…
I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: Oh Snap]
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02/27/22 11:54 AM
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Well how did Afghanistan work out for Russia? How did it work out for us?
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: loosegoose]
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02/27/22 11:55 AM
02/27/22 11:55 AM
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Compared to state run media like Russia has I'll take the West's free press any day. There may be slants to the stories, but at least I think they're trying to get the story out. They don't take instructions from any government entity on what they can report.
My fear of moving stairs is escalating!
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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02/27/22 11:56 AM
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Compared to state run media like Russia has I'll take the West's free press any day. There may be slants to the stories, but at least I think they're trying to get the story out. They don't take instructions from any government entity on what they can report. Sometimes I'm not so sure.
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: warrior]
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02/27/22 11:57 AM
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Well how did Afghanistan work out for Russia? How did it work out for us? It didn’t, gorilla warfare works. It appears to be working with modern weapons and WILL!
I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: loosegoose]
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02/27/22 12:00 PM
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Doing nothing is going to cost us dearly .....just wait and see
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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02/27/22 12:04 PM
02/27/22 12:04 PM
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Compared to state run media like Russia has I'll take the West's free press any day. There may be slants to the stories, but at least I think they're trying to get the story out. They don't take instructions from any government entity on what they can report. Agree 100%. But sit tight. IF the Truth social media ever gets going we'll be able to sort out any information gaps with memes and emojis. You know, real news.
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: Coyote Clayton]
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02/27/22 12:11 PM
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Propaganda. We are constantly being manipulated. Clicks = Money. Money buys power, power in the wrong hands takes FREEDOM, when the money is gone FREEDOM is GONE!
I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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02/27/22 12:20 PM
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Compared to state run media like Russia has I'll take the West's free press any day. There may be slants to the stories, but at least I think they're trying to get the story out. They don't take instructions from any government entity on what they can report. Naive.
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: Posco]
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02/27/22 12:25 PM
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Compared to state run media like Russia has I'll take the West's free press any day. There may be slants to the stories, but at least I think they're trying to get the story out. They don't take instructions from any government entity on what they can report. Naive. Read what he wrote. You would prefer a former KGB now authoritarian dictator controlling the press over clicking between channel, distilling the information and thinking for yourself? Some of y'all talk a big American game but actually want to live in an authoritarian state--as long as your guy is calling the shots.
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: Blaine County]
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02/27/22 12:29 PM
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Compared to state run media like Russia has I'll take the West's free press any day. There may be slants to the stories, but at least I think they're trying to get the story out. They don't take instructions from any government entity on what they can report. Agree 100%. But sit tight. IF the Truth social media ever gets going we'll be able to sort out any information gaps with memes and emojis. You know, real news. You sound a little bitter over being duped by the main stream media into believing Trump praised Putin's attack on Ukraine. You fell for it hook, line and sinker didn't you?
Eh...wot?
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: Blaine County]
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02/27/22 12:29 PM
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Read what he wrote. You would prefer a former KGB now authoritarian dictator controlling the press over clicking between channel, distilling the information and thinking for yourself?
Some of y'all talk a big American game but actually want to live in an authoritarian state--as long as your guy is calling the shots. Chinese/Russian media report the party line with a gun pointed toward their head, the American MSM report the party line because they're true believes. The net effect is the same.
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Re: Propaganda
[Re: loosegoose]
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02/27/22 12:38 PM
02/27/22 12:38 PM
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What if Putin's top brass aren't all that exited about his escapade into Ukraine, and it is they who are dragging their feet in the invasion?
There have got to be a whole bunch of Putin's own cronies who are not at all happy about this.
Watch for a mutiny within his own administration; just a possibility.
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