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Re: Propaganda [Re: danvee] #7512256
02/28/22 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by danvee
News these days I don't care what channel or social media is created to do one thing keep you glued to the tv or computer and make money plain and simple. The more dramatic they make it or controversial they make it they got you dialed in. Some of it is news the rest is there spin on it. The new rage is folks that get their own web site put up a interesting paper background and give you there spin on things. The more you watch it the more sponsors they get the more money they make. In the 60s the news was news for 30 min each night and unless it was the bay of pigs, Vietnam war, civil riots not much to talk about and things were short lived. Now it is a serial melodrama , and they know when they are losing viewers, sponsorship for sure and they know who is watching and they gear the broadcast to the largest base. As usual its all about money, lobbies pour large sums of money into the programs. For me I would just as soon watch BBC calm and I find it for the MOST part non biased. Nothing worse than screaming news casters getting the interviewed folks ramped up, but it sure keeps a lot of folks watching.

I hate to break it to you but MSM has been in the "fake" news business since at least the 1957 integration of Central High in Little Rock, AR. From what I consider a reliable source, a little camera play turned the curiosity of spectators into a mob of honkies.

Re: Propaganda [Re: Mike in A-town] #7512279
02/28/22 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
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Called it last week and by Saturday they were all saying it. How a few on here can’t see it simply amazes me. Great example Mike thanks


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Re: Propaganda [Re: loosegoose] #7512294
02/28/22 08:52 AM
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1) the media, free world and Russia all believed this would be over in 48 hours
2) the media and NATO was not prepared for the Ukraine resistance to fight back at the level they are and hold off the Russians
3) the media and NATO thought the Ukraine President would flee and not elect to be martyred.
4) The media and NATO never thought the free world would stand up and support Ukraine and call out their governments as cowards[u][/u]
5) This public support has caught the "the new world order" off guard. They thought it would look like Afghanistan or Iraq (all dry runs)
6) The Russians thought their military would fight harder.
7) NATO and the west realize they have been drinking their own kool-aide from the media and propaganda specialist and that the people will fight
8) China and India who have huge populations are watching and realize how fragile their control is.
9) The US govt is very surprised, no doubt.
10) the "new world order" is now facing a real; "new reset" and want to put the genie back into the bottle.
11) Fox and CNN are all selling the same story, which means they are confused and do not know how to re spin the story

Be careful what you wish: and know the difference between people who will fight and people who will not like the 3 rd world nations. It appears western cultures will be pushed so far. Now they have to deal with what is unfolding.

Dying for freedom is no different than a Christian dying for Christ. The think tanks all got it wrong and they are disconnected from reality.

Re: Propaganda [Re: loosegoose] #7512417
02/28/22 10:56 AM
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"A little over a week after the start of combat, German troops had reached the outskirts of the Polish capital, Warsaw. "


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Re: Propaganda [Re: henpecked1] #7512433
02/28/22 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by henpecked1

1) the media, free world and Russia all believed this would be over in 48 hours
2) the media and NATO was not prepared for the Ukraine resistance to fight back at the level they are and hold off the Russians
3) the media and NATO thought the Ukraine President would flee and not elect to be martyred.
4) The media and NATO never thought the free world would stand up and support Ukraine and call out their governments as cowards[u][/u]
5) This public support has caught the "the new world order" off guard. They thought it would look like Afghanistan or Iraq (all dry runs)
6) The Russians thought their military would fight harder.
7) NATO and the west realize they have been drinking their own kool-aide from the media and propaganda specialist and that the people will fight
8) China and India who have huge populations are watching and realize how fragile their control is.
9) The US govt is very surprised, no doubt.
10) the "new world order" is now facing a real; "new reset" and want to put the genie back into the bottle.
11) Fox and CNN are all selling the same story, which means they are confused and do not know how to re spin the story

Be careful what you wish: and know the difference between people who will fight and people who will not like the 3 rd world nations. It appears western cultures will be pushed so far. Now they have to deal with what is unfolding.

Dying for freedom is no different than a Christian dying for Christ. The think tanks all got it wrong and they are disconnected from reality.


Our currant administration has the absolute worst people heading what use to be a fairly accurate intelligence network. This is the second time within a year that they were 180 degrees off on the strengths of combatants. First in Afghanistan and now in Ukraine.

Thanks Brandon and his supporters, I hope we don't really really need good info anytime soon.

Re: Propaganda [Re: loosegoose] #7512445
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I really doubt all this speculation. IF the Uke's were " fighting , mighty resistance", I believe the death toll would have been 50 times the reported 160 or so. The live reports I have seen are all quiet and calm, Make no mistake, Putin will control the Ukraine shortly. The citizens will know little difference, just different corrupt officials. The big losers will be the western govt's who have cultivated relationships with the corrupt Uke's

Re: Propaganda [Re: Diggerman] #7512449
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
I really doubt all this speculation. IF the Uke's were " fighting , mighty resistance", I believe the death toll would have been 50 times the reported 160 or so. The live reports I have seen are all quiet and calm, Make no mistake, Putin will control the Ukraine shortly. The citizens will know little difference, just different corrupt officials. The big losers will be the western govt's who have cultivated relationships with the corrupt Uke's

That's probably just about right.

Re: Propaganda [Re: loosegoose] #7512495
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I've been reading anywhere from 3500-5000 Russians killed. The Ukrainians are saying around 500 civilians killed but are not saying how many of their own troops killed.

Re: Propaganda [Re: Pawnee] #7512670
02/28/22 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Yep, completely trustworthy...

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Called it last week and by Saturday they were all saying it. How a few on here can’t see it simply amazes me. Great example Mike thanks


Now to be fair, we are seeing an increase in gas prices due to this mess... But they were sky high already so blaming it on Ukraine is still a bit dishonest.

However, even Helen Keller could see through the supply chain/inflation portion of that claim. But she did grow up to be a socialist so she would probably just parrot the narrative.

Mike


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Re: Propaganda [Re: loosegoose] #7513756
03/01/22 02:20 PM
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Re: Propaganda [Re: Lugnut] #7513830
03/01/22 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Lugnut
It makes me feel like I've always felt; let's mind our own business and let other countries duke it out on their own.

Unless Russia directly attacks the US we shouldn't be involved in any way.

I agree.
We need to bankrupt Putin. We can do that by opening up drilling in ANWAR, Bakken, and more oil exploration. Complete the Keystone pipeline.
We have more oil in the US than any of the Arab countries. We can start selling our oil to the countries that are condemning Russia.

Biden will never do that, though. His goal is to raise the prices at the pump so high people will be forced to buy electric vehicles.


A man is suing Smart Water for it not making him smart. I'm seriously thinking of suing Thin Mints.
Re: Propaganda [Re: loosegoose] #7513842
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Re: Propaganda [Re: KOSOI] #7513969
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I watched this video. The guy yapping on the video is very misinformed.

ONLY hitting military infrastructure? Yeah, right!


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Re: Propaganda [Re: loosegoose] #7514080
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The United States absolutely does not have reserves comparable to the reserves surrounding the Persian Gulf. The American public is too propagandized to understand the American oil industry is their best friend. If you doubt that, think back to who taught you to despise " Big Oil".

Re: Propaganda [Re: loosegoose] #7514088
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P.S. ANWR was open for leases. The State of Alaska bought almost all of them.

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Re: Propaganda [Re: beaverpeeler] #7514096
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You are the only voice of reason on here!

Re: Propaganda [Re: Diggerman] #7514148
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
I really doubt all this speculation. IF the Uke's were " fighting , mighty resistance", I believe the death toll would have been 50 times the reported 160 or so. The live reports I have seen are all quiet and calm, Make no mistake, Putin will control the Ukraine shortly. The citizens will know little difference, just different corrupt officials. The big losers will be the western govt's who have cultivated relationships with the corrupt Uke's

All the shooting that has been going on the past few nights in Kiev are shots being fire between opposing street gangs and common criminals using their newly acquired free rifles.
The "Russians" have been Miles away.
LOTS of bs being thrown around on the news and social media.

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Re: Propaganda [Re: loosegoose] #7514157
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If that is the case, those street gangs possess quite a bit of military grade explosives! The same could be said of Kharkiv.

Re: Propaganda [Re: waggler] #7514161
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Originally Posted by waggler
Originally Posted by Diggerman
I really doubt all this speculation. IF the Uke's were " fighting , mighty resistance", I believe the death toll would have been 50 times the reported 160 or so. The live reports I have seen are all quiet and calm, Make no mistake, Putin will control the Ukraine shortly. The citizens will know little difference, just different corrupt officials. The big losers will be the western govt's who have cultivated relationships with the corrupt Uke's

All the shooting that has been going on the past few nights in Kiev are shots being fire between opposing street gangs and common criminals using their newly acquired free rifles.
The "Russians" have been Miles away.
LOTS of bs being thrown around on the news and social media.


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Re: Propaganda [Re: Pawnee] #7514721
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Originally Posted by Pawnee
Originally Posted by Mike in A-town
Yep, completely trustworthy...

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Called it last week and by Saturday they were all saying it. How a few on here can’t see it simply amazes me. Great example Mike thanks

Even our local station which refers to itself as a FOX Affiliate, blames the high prices at the pump due to the invasion of Ukraine.
I guess they missed Joe's first few days in office as he methodically gave away our energy independence.


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