Re: open sighted 30-30
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I’ll jump in on the Marlin side. Started with a 336 in .30-30. We were not a good match. Went to a .35 Remington - still a bad match. Long ago, found a JM 1895 in .45-70 that is just right. Put a scope in quick release mounts so great either way. Had just a bit of work to make it even better. Shopping for an 1895 100/125 anniversary gun that I will put on a scope in QR mounts and hunt with. That gun looks wicked good with the half octagon and half round barrel and fine wood.
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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My Marlin is older and didn't come with sling studs.I didn't want to alter the gun,,so I put one of these slings on it. https://brassstacker.com/Rifle-Slings Just scroll down till you find your make of rifle.They are a bit pricey,,but their beautifull and realy compliment a Lever Gun.
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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Now there is one that you can handload pointed bullets in and really make the 30x30 shine.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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the Black Spot said: savage 340 I have a Stevens 325. Same rifle. Dad gave it to me when I was 11. Killed a lot of stuff with it. My grandad gave it to my dad. He bought it new for him when Dad was a kid. 160user said: Now there is one that you can handload pointed bullets in and really make the 30x30 shine. If you do that you have to trim the case down a bunch. The bullet has to be seated pretty deep to get cartridge length correct so they will feed. If you dont trim that long case neck down there is a gap between the case and the bullet for about 3/16 of an inch. Dirt and crud gets in there. You can load spitzer bullets in any of them if just load right into the chamber single shot style with the bullet loaded correct to the case. You do get a little flatter trajectory. IMO though the rifle was never meant for long range. Get within a 100 yards of a bull elk, put the bullet in his boiler room, and you can eat elk backstrap for supper. If you want to shoot further get yourself a nice 270 or 300 win mag or any of dozens of other cartridges.
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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according to my nosler book a 150 grain flat nose bullet has about 1400foot pounds of energy at 100 yards and a 170 has 1376. Thats with a 150 grain loaded to 2400FPS and 2200 for the 170 grain. So not 10 cents difference in them really, with plenty of energy at 100 yards. Colorado Parks and wildlife says 1500 pounds but I can assure you that the 30-30 will get the job done if you get close and shoot careful. Last I knew a 30-30 was still legal for elk. https://cpw.state.co.us/learn/Pages/EHU-CH2-L10.aspx#:~:text=A%20commonly%20accepted%20threshold%20for,243%20Win. A commonly accepted threshold for the minimum amount of kinetic energy needed to kill an elk is 1500 ft-lbs. For whitetail deer, the minimum amount of kinetic energy is 1000 ft-lbs.
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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Have a couple 94 s here. one Fathers is chambered 30 WCF built 1927 . 30 W.C.F is 30-30 30wcf is the original Winchester name for it when other makers started chambering guns in they needed a different name for it 30-30win was it eventually even Winchester started calling it 30-30 win
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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eric space: When I shot my first buck, he came right at me and stopped at about 30 feet. I could see 2 white spots on his forehead.
He took off and I started shooting. At least 4 shots were while he was running. The 5th. finished him on the ground.
I never did hear what my dads thoughts were. I can only guess.
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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I am more of a model 70 fan myself. I have a hard time seeing open sights. I like my Bolts too And a caliber that shoots past the woodline
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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330, I didnt ever really want an AR till after I got one. They are a lot of fun to shoot too..............
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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P.S. I dont know what injured that bear, but a 30-30 at bait station ranges would have been on the other side of that shoulder blade. I dont know what did it either but why would you shoot the shoulder blade anyway? Thats a big miss if the guy was aiming at the boiler room.
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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Harvested a bear last spring with what appeared to be a 30 caliber slug under the skin on the shoulder and a real messed up scapula. Likely from someone shooting a 30-30 over bait since there's a few stations near there. Not saying it's not enough gun for black bear but definitely watch your range and shot placement can you point out the bullet in the picture.
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Re: open sighted 30-30
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I have an ole 1894 Winchester with a 26" octagon barrel and a tang peep sight. It is chambered in 32 Winchester Special made around 1920. I shoot's the Hornady Lever Eveloution ammo pretty darned good. Bought it from a guy in New Castle Wyoming years ago. He said it came off a ranch south of New Castle. It has spent a lot of time in a scabbard but is still a nice rifle.
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