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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7521107
03/07/22 09:58 PM
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Another vote for the pesky females, they can give a guy grey hair for sure!

Same as Rick though, I caught a big male a few weeks back that was giving me fits and he also fought the trap really hard. He chewed on the trap so hard he looked like an MMA fighter after five rounds!

Thanks for the tip on the chew stick TEJAS! I've relocated quite a bit stuff from a catch circle but never a chew stick, they would be covered with some good smells.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7521113
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Lots of good info

Last year I caught 4 coyotes, 2 females and 2 males I believe
This year 4 males.
I know for a fact that there is at least 1 female that worked one of the sets because I have her squatting and marking it on game cam video.

I value catching the females more as I know I am eliminating more than 1 coyote by taking out a female.

Are there any tips or opinions of what can help a person catch more females?

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: BTLowry] #7521430
03/08/22 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BTLowry
Are there any tips or opinions of what can help a person catch more females?


Here is the Cliffs Notes version BT.

If you show them a set/lure that promotes digging, you are most likely giving them a big advantage.

I'd stick with open pattern flats and let the coyote work the set on her terms, not yours.

Don’t overdo it on the attractants whether it is visual and/or olfactory.

Show her something she would expect to see at that location.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7521439
03/08/22 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TEJAS

Originally Posted by BTLowry
Are there any tips or opinions of what can help a person catch more females?


Here is the Cliffs Notes version BT.

If you show them a set/lure that promotes digging, you are most likely giving them a big advantage.

I'd stick with open pattern flats and let the coyote work the set on her terms, not yours.

Don’t overdo it on the attractants whether it is visual and/or olfactory.

Show her something she would expect to see at that location.

Tejas,
This may be a question that doesn't mean much on the ranch your trapping (with low coyote numbers), but how many misses and failures to commit are you seeing?

Miss = coyote steps within 6" of trap, many times all around trap, but never steps on pan.

Failure to Commit = coyote approaches, but no closer than about 12" to trap, many times 3 or 4 feet out.



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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7521992
03/08/22 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
This may be a question that doesn't mean much on the ranch your trapping (with low coyote numbers), but how many misses and failures to commit are you seeing?

Miss = coyote steps within 6" of trap, many times all around trap, but never steps on pan.

Failure to Commit = coyote approaches, but no closer than about 12" to trap, many times 3 or 4 feet out.

I have my fair share of misses that’s for sure Swamp. As for a percentage I don’t really know.

It’s not the misses with a few tracks near the pan that bother me; it’s the sets that look like a coyote fiesta was held and everybody made it home safe and sound.

Overall, a miss doesn’t concern me too much because the coyote is showing willingness to work the set. Even if she doesn’t step on the pan, I have other fun sets nearby just in case she wants to try her luck again.. She will roll snake eyes soon enough.

For me, a set’s construction or look is all about helping the attractant(s) create more foot traffic. An open pattern does just that in my situation.

I've found that the more you attempt to restrict a coyote’s movement, the more avoidance you will encounter. That is what I have noticed here.

On a place with no pressure, they may very well walk in on any set you show them.

I don’t have a lot of commitment issues early in the season. Drive-bys or total avoidance becomes more of a problem as the population is whittled down to the last of the bad hombres.


Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522031
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How many consecutive days have you been working that line? How many more days b4 you pull?


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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522102
03/08/22 11:30 PM
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I really appreciate the discussion here. When a Coyote visits one of my sets and leaves a pile about a foot back I always feel insulted.

My wife suggested that if you want to catch females, show them something that sparkles. I can say that I tried it only once - and it worked. Not sure who was caught.


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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522263
03/09/22 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
How many consecutive days have you been working that line? How many more days b4 you pull?

I’ve been at it for little over a month now Swamp. It feels like a lot longer.

Like I mentioned on the prior page, once the roads go stone cold and remain that way, then I will pull up the line.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522323
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A lot of trappers roll upon on a coyote and immediately guess at the age and sex.

If you just pulled up to this contestant what would your two guesses be?


How many years old is this coyote, and is it a male or female?

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522364
03/09/22 08:46 AM
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Looks old wish I had a different angle of the face,my guess from what I can see is 8 to 10 year old veteran dog and male gender,but I need another face angle.Without seeing the teeth it's always just a guess!

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: rick olson] #7522377
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I’m going to say 7 or 8 years old and I believe it’s a female, from what I can see the snout looks a little too narrow for a male.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522391
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Here’s a portrait for a better look.

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522400
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I'll take a stab at it and say it's an 8-10 year old female that's had a hard life.


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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522529
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Better picture I now say a female that has seen a lot in her life time,but now it's lights out for her.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522546
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I'd say older female, but I'd guess younger than you guys, just because I don't figure many coyotes live to ten. Without seeing teeth it is hard to say, but just a guess I would say around five.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522744
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Female six or seven been thur a few battles.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7522868
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Going to say 5yo female that had a smart mother that taught her well

Probably turn out to be a 2yo male smile

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7523100
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This old gal ignored six other sets and went for a changeup made on the seventh trap just hours before.

A coyote this old didn’t get that way by making bad decisions.

In some cases, you have to show them a set and attractant they wouldn’t think twice about approaching, even on ground they know is dangerous.

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I offset the trap to her left for obvious reasons. cool

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Coyotes probably don’t get too much older than this.

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Notice that all the incisors are gone as well

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Even with her wore out choppers, she looked to be in good condition.


What would the Coyote Crew guess her age at after seeing the " Rest of the Story"?

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7523117
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Probably was the female of the pair Noah had on the boat laugh

Probably 12

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7523123
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Okay, now seeing her teeth I would guess 10ish, but I've never had a coyote officially aged, so it is still a guess. As you said though, probably about as old as coyotes generally get.

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