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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7515728
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Blind sets in the tire tracks,mafia set,trapping close to a loud stinky draw I do well with a subtle flat set with a sweeter smelling lure.One I have good success with is beaver meat,castor and salmon oil another one is otter gland with muskrat gland with a little honey.Depending on tracks 2 to 4 sets within 30 yards of your attractant {deer}.I see burn circles in the the road way,dont over look a burnt hide staked down set pole barn spike make sure you pick them up after your done flat tires will get you kicked off farms/ranches {small}hide size of a golf ball or smaller.

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7515729
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Tejas. What is your preferred trap set up and staking method? Do you use pan covers or anything to keep the sand from clogging up the pans fall? One more question- do you cover your pan level with the surrounding dirt or like to have a slight depression above the pan? Thanks. I appreciate your thread and sharing of experience.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7515742
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Urine on a tuft of grass closest to the two track. I would also look for a trail under the fence.


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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: 8117 Steve R] #7515792
03/03/22 09:41 AM
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I think the trail sets you have on the field side road are excellent, only thing I would add to them is a couple sets on the road across the fence.
A pee post with good urine and a tiny dab of gland and the other a simple turd set with urine.

My thinking is the addition of some coyote smells across the fence would possibly cause one to do a little more pacing over the blind sets before jumping into the deer carcass, also if one was already caught in one of the blind sets I could see others ducking under the fence and milling around the road opposite of coyote that’s already hooked up, trying to decide if it’s safe to hit the carcass.

Thanks for all the information you posting, this thread is addicting!

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7515891
03/03/22 11:16 AM
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Good Stuff Fellas!

There are a couple of reasons why I didn’t set the other side of the fence right off the bat.

There’s a lot of deer traffic in this area. In the third photo there is a trail that parallels the road on the right. With a right to left wind sets would be on the right side of the road for the most part. That puts them right next to the deer trail.

Notice the cross trail to the right of the deer in the second photo. That looks like a great place for a set, but it’s a major crossing point for deer entering the field. If you set there you would have tripped traps every day. There is a set where that trail crosses the two track my traps are on. It's the most distant set on the front line.

Another reason I left the sandy road alone for now is so I can get current recon.

One coyote passed on that road last night and never broke stride. The buck is still somewhat new, so some coyotes will shy away from it even though it’s a menu item.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: ] #7516429
03/03/22 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rubee
Tejas. What is your preferred trap set up and staking method?
Do you use pan covers or anything to keep the sand from clogging up the pans fall?
One more question- do you cover your pan level with the surrounding dirt or like to have a slight depression above the pan? .

MB 550 – RC Offset Jaw
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Foam pad under the pan

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Slight to no depression over the pan when bedded.

If I can can tell where the trap is from the concave I level it out some.


Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7516480
03/03/22 08:26 PM
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Man it’s so nice to read about someone else that can’t/won’t set a spot because of all the deer tracks, lol. I have found after about the 3rd trip they sorta leave it alone, or at least I can go a day without them tripping it. Those things are some kinda curious.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7516504
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WB, tripped traps are usually a daily occurrence around here.

This season there have only been a few set off by deer thank goodness.

I probably shouldn't have said that.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7516510
03/03/22 08:54 PM
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If you’re just looking on the road or cross trails for tracks you're more than likely missing out on some prime set opportunities.

In his case there was very little sign on the road to the far left. The main travel corridor was ten yards off the road skirting the brush line.

Several secondary trails used only by coyotes intersected the main game trail.

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Here is the one of the secondary coyote trails leading out of the brush.

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Notice all the scat on the small hump at the intersection the two trails. A set was made right where the two trails meet.

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The other coyote trail was only thirty yards away from the first and intersected the same main trail.

Notice the scat and trap to the far right. The calling card was left in place and the trap bedded on the downwind side.

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Here is the result of those two sets.

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Female - Flat Set - MB Coyote Urine - Coyotero


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Male - Flat Set - MB Fox Urine - Winter Wolf


Here's a wide angle shot to show how far they were staying off the road.

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7516560
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Great thread with useful information and great pictures

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7516757
03/04/22 06:24 AM
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Happy belated BD James, the buck in the fence set up looks good but I'd have some subtle sets further away from the dead buck zone too. Droppings, urine, and curiosity flats. BTS also.


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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: Aix sponsa] #7516886
03/04/22 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Aix sponsa
Great thread with useful information and great pictures

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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7516968
03/04/22 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by TEJAS

If you’re just looking on the road or cross trails for tracks you're more than likely missing out on some prime set opportunities.

In his case there was very little sign on the road to the far left. The main travel corridor was ten yards off the road skirting the brush line.

Several secondary trails used only by coyotes intersected the main game trail.

[Linked Image]


Here is the one of the secondary coyote trails leading out of the brush.

[Linked Image]


Notice all the scat on the small hump at the intersection the two trails. A set was made right where the two trails meet.

[Linked Image]


The other coyote trail was only thirty yards away from the first and intersected the same main trail.

Notice the scat and trap to the far right. The calling card was left in place and the trap bedded on the downwind side.

[Linked Image]


Here is the result of those two sets.

[Linked Image]
Female - Flat Set - MB Coyote Urine - Coyotero


[Linked Image]
Male - Flat Set - MB Fox Urine - Winter Wolf


Here's a wide angle shot to show how far they were staying off the road.

[Linked Image]

Awesome photos


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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7516979
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I really appreciate your time invested in documenting and explaining what you do. The reasoning is the best part! Thank you!


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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7516997
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Morning All, Tejas that tight spot on the trail coming out of the brush looks like a good spot for a camouflaged snare.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: MChewk] #7517103
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Originally Posted by MChewk
Tejas, that tight spot on the trail coming out of the brush looks like a good spot for a camouflaged snare.


It sure would be MC.

The only problem is if I blow up that trail with a catch they will quit using it immediately.

If they switch trails on me, I am not likely to find the new one for lack of sign.

I could have put a blind set at each location and picked up those two coyotes pretty quick, but then the trails would be avoided indefinitely.

The two trails shown are coming from the direction of a bedding area.

I didn’t want to mess a good thing up.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7517123
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Those south Tx coyotes act just like these palmetto coyotes I have here....lol.

When there's only stragglers left, a wise trapper must consider the ramifications of his actions.


Some great analytical observations Tejas!


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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7517160
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7517461
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Originally Posted by MChewk
Tejas another question for you,

how long after you pull up traps do you start seeing more coyotes migrating back in?


Once the population has been whittled down to a nub, filling the void will take considerable time.

Keep in mind that void extends well past the boundaries of the trapping area.

The coyotes trickle in gradually as they discover there are no dangers and many vacancies in prime territory.

Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY [Re: TEJAS] #7518052
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Morning Tejas, I haven’t found that to be a problem...animals/coyotes caught in a foothold or snare or body grip trap( for other animals) will either venture around the animal or catch site and make another path/ trail out. After a while they might even travel back over the old trail. They will leave tracks and sign as they travel and then the trapper sets other traps in an attempt to catch them. What a strategy might be is to have other footholds in place near the area where you place the snare. As the best lure is the animal caught in the snare/ trap. Just thinking out loud here.

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