Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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What Boco and Dirt are both saying is America is the chump willing to open its pockets. Yep. We should have ditched NATO years ago. This administration has mis-stepped EVERY opportunity/decision and appears destined to ignite WW3. I expect my odds are pretty fair right now of seeing that white hot flash BOCO mentioned. Though I doubt I'll get to be vaporized, assuming an 8 megaton warhead.
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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America would not do well going it alone against a Russia Chinese alliance. As a member of the Nato alliance Russia and chinese alliance would lose. The weaponry of the UK and France is some powerful.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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Together france, uk and germany spend less than 1/5 on defense than the USA.
canada spends less than 1/2 of any of those countries....data from 2020.
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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Check out their armaments. The only reason the US is always spending money on armaments is that they are continually supplying billions to the camel humpers to shoot back at you lol. Other countries dont do that.
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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America would not do well going it alone against a Russia Chinese alliance. As a member of the Nato alliance Russia and chinese alliance would lose. The weaponry of the UK and France is some powerful. NATO is the fuse that will suck us into WW3. Without NATO, we have choices about where our interests lie. By and large it's not with Poland (who's an instigator) and it's not with Ukraine. Four weeks ago, most Americans (and probably Canadians) still considered Ukraine as "Russian". I fully believe that we are going to see a war with Russia, China, India and Iran. We will likely see foreign troops on our soil. ETA- doubt NATO nations will send aid.
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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You definitely will see chinese on your shores if you dont remain part of Nato. US,Canada UK and others are the founding members of Nato. You are as much a part of Nato as we are. Nato Alliance was formed after WW2 to counter the Communist threat to Democracy. The first cold war battle was the Berlin airlift against USSR right after the end of WW2. Should have listened to Patton.
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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You definitely will see chinese on your shores if you dont remain part of Nato. US,Canada UK and others are the founding members of Nato. You are as much a part of Nato as we are. Nato Alliance was formed after WW2 to counter the Communist threat to Democracy. The first cold war battle was the Berlin airlift against USSR right after the end of WW2. Should have listened to Patton. The communist threat to our nation is internal.
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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Just curious wildflight which side do you see India on? I tend to think of them leaning towards the USA but I very well could be wrong. They've been meeting recently with Russia and China. When things break, IMO they won't be on our side.
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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I'd like to see some Russians and Chinese invade North Bay, Ontario.
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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Lots of folks don’t want to accept that we are dangerously close to nuclear weapons being actually used. Most shrug it off saying Putin is just posturing,,, I legit think Putin is past piddling. The hypersonic missle used today was kind of a warning,,,
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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Lots of folks don’t want to accept that we are dangerously close to nuclear weapons being actually used. Most shrug it off saying Putin is just posturing,,, I legit think Putin is past piddling. The hypersonic missle used today was kind of a warning,,, Using a nuke is a really really dumb decision now days for a multitude of reasons
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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Lots of folks don’t want to accept that we are dangerously close to nuclear weapons being actually used. Most shrug it off saying Putin is just posturing,,, I legit think Putin is past piddling. The hypersonic missle used today was kind of a warning,,, Using a nuke is a really really dumb decision now days for a multitude of reasons You are correct,,, but Putin could be in the “ I’m taking you with me mindset “. Nobody wins when it’s mutual destruction
Stand by your principles, Stand by your guns, and victory complete and permanent is sure at last. Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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You definitely will see chinese on your shores if you dont remain part of Nato. US,Canada UK and others are the founding members of Nato. You are as much a part of Nato as we are. Nato Alliance was formed after WW2 to counter the Communist threat to Democracy. The first cold war battle was the Berlin airlift against USSR right after the end of WW2. Should have listened to Patton. China isn’t coming on our shores the same reason Japan didn’t during World War 2. They know there will be a gun behind every rock and tree.
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Re: Ukraine, how does this end?
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With all the natural resources and what not we have ,what would be the point in using a nuke ? Especially with the risk of mutual destruction? I'm not understanding this. Resources for the taking or for a counter offensive? I think "mutual destruction" is a Western idea and a false sense of security.
Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire. -Gustav Mahler
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