Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
[Re: danny clifton]
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When I look at the 6.5 numbers I dont see where its any better than a lot of other cartridges. I believe now, ( i didnt when I was young) that the primary purpose of outdoor publications is to sell stuff. The more they can sell the more they can charge for ads and ads disguised as articles.
In order to keep gun sales up gun manufacturers need new stuff. It doesn't have to be better than their "old" offerings it just needs magazine articles to sell it.
I bought a 270 cause Jack O Conner kept pointing out how much it out performed the 30-06. I am a little more experienced now and as great a cartridge as the 270 is the stuff I shoot with it isnt any deader than stuff shot with my old 06. it is basically a modernized shorter action 6.5 swede , 6.5 swede was alwasy a good cartridge but ammo for it and the 1896 rifles chambered in it was not being laoded to it's potential in many cases becasue of the old rifle concern. 6.5 creedmore was made for punching holes in paper at distance , then people hyped it for hunting inside 300 yards it had no more power than 308
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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New cartridges/ broadhead topics get me fired up somehow. I feel we have reached the " perfect platform" YEARS ago.
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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When I look at the 6.5 numbers I dont see where its any better than a lot of other cartridges. I believe now, ( i didnt when I was young) that the primary purpose of outdoor publications is to sell stuff. The more they can sell the more they can charge for ads and ads disguised as articles.
In order to keep gun sales up gun manufacturers need new stuff. It doesn't have to be better than their "old" offerings it just needs magazine articles to sell it.
I bought a 270 cause Jack O Conner kept pointing out how much it out performed the 30-06. I am a little more experienced now and as great a cartridge as the 270 is the stuff I shoot with it isnt any deader than stuff shot with my old 06. I spent a fair amount of time in the last 6 months researching a caliber for a 300yd deer gun. Started with the 6.5 then got to looking at the 7mm08 then the 270. For hunting ranges the 7mm08 had a slight performance advantage over the 6.5 in all categories. The 6.5 had a slight edge in the recoil department. The 270 just out performed both but does come with a bit more recoil. I do believe the 270 has a flatter trajectory than the 30-06 and can perform pretty close to the 06 with less recoil.
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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A pretty fair milestone was in the late 1950's when Winchester introduced their belted mag. line including the .264,.338 .458 and finally the .300 Win Mag.
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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I like mine Yes Sir. Both of them. Usually whats in my hands hunting most anything bigger than a coyote. Still wont kill stuff any deader than any other rifle though. Recoil has never really been a determining factor for me. I load my 270 the same way O Conner did. 55 grains of IMR 4350 and a 130 grain boat tail.
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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I dont hate it. Just have no need for one.
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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FWIW I never bought a 204 cause I have a 22-250. If was 16 again and looking to pay for a new rifle with money I earned I have no doubt I would be looking at the 6.5. I have no doubt that 50 years later I would be saying I dont need whatever the whizbang will be in 50 years either.
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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I don't remember, in my lifetime, there being such a "snooty" round than the 6.5 creedmore. Not saying that those that shoot it are, but seems to me that if you ain't shootin one, you ain't shootin! I get that the ballistics are unreal, but let me shoot what i shoot, and you can shoot what you shoot!
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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I don't remember, in my lifetime, there being such a "snooty" round than the 6.5 creedmore. Not saying that those that shoot it are, but seems to me that if you ain't shootin one, you ain't shootin! I get that the ballistics are unreal, but let me shoot what i shoot, and you can shoot what you shoot! I mean.....alot of older guys where doing that with the .260 rem when the Creed first came out
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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I get that the ballistics are unreal nope. just hype
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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Hay what was it like when the 6.5 grendel first came out ? Think I was only like 14 so can only remember one or two little things not a lot of anything , some articles in the gun rags , some people went to it in AR's but nothing like the creedmore hype it got slightly more press than 6.5 arc and 6.5 PRC
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Re: What was the 6.5 Creedmore of y'all's generation
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I don't remember, in my lifetime, there being such a "snooty" round than the 6.5 creedmore. Not saying that those that shoot it are, but seems to me that if you ain't shootin one, you ain't shootin! I get that the ballistics are unreal, but let me shoot what i shoot, and you can shoot what you shoot! I mean.....alot of older guys where doing that with the .260 rem when the Creed first came out Yep, built my 260 rem before the Creedmoor was though of. But our 243 and 7mm08 have killed more deer because my 260 is long and heavy with its thick 26" barrel and 9" of silencer. It's the most accurate gun I have ever owned sub .30 5 shot groups but it's not fun to pack around. And for our hunting ranges of 100 yards or so all the rifle calibers I have seen hit deer about the same. Band flop or a stumble flopping run. The right bullet is more important than caliber.
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