Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Felco is a good brand held in high regard. They do make a single cavity crimper in 1/16 not sure about larger sizes. The single cavity I'm speaking of looks like a cable cutter so it may be a leverage thing. https://images.app.goo.gl/28aYfa4rsMhScCsL7Doible crimping spreads the load over the length of the ferrule, yes a pia. Maybe one made up like the two piece die and bolt crimper could be made to do both at once. But it would be slower still. I know southern snares uses a hydraulic press type crimper but that's not nice to the wallet nor exactly portable.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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I prefer the fnt wolf fangs. I’ve tried other cheaper brand ones and the tab break’s off sometimes when driving into hard ground. That’s also using chain and welded s hooks. Wolf Fang = Freedom Brand + FNT fit on MB driver , FNT driver, AND Custom Driver I got from you Hammer . BUT Wolf Fang WCP fit on NONE of the other 3 . So I guess their cheaper to buy but not as uniform
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Felco is a good brand held in high regard. They do make a single cavity crimper in 1/16 not sure about larger sizes. The single cavity I'm speaking of looks like a cable cutter so it may be a leverage thing. https://images.app.goo.gl/28aYfa4rsMhScCsL7Doible crimping spreads the load over the length of the ferrule, yes a pia. Maybe one made up like the two piece die and bolt crimper could be made to do both at once. But it would be slower still. I know southern snares uses a hydraulic press type crimper but that's not nice to the wallet nor exactly portable. Warrior I may do 1500 plus a year so, I might be willing to pay alittle for a 3/32 crimper that will do the job without to crimps. Think of all the time it would save
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Making 14 inch Wolf Fangs. On 3/32 Korean cable now. Is Korean cable better? Korean cable is the high quality cable that makes great snares. When you buy premium cable from reputable suppliers, it’s more than likely Korean cable. For earth anchors that are at times disposable, I just buy whatever 7x7. As long as it’s not POOR quality, it works fine for this.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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A good bench mounted swagger will speed things up a bit. The made in Japan ARM Bench Swagger 1/16 - 3/16 is a good one it also has a built in Cable Cutter. The Snare Shop has them listed for 215.00 $$ free shipping. I make my anchors with 1/8th 7x7 cable with 5 links of # 3 chain on the end. Hope this helps. Will it crimp 3/32 in one crimp all the way across ?
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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No, I have never seen a hand operated swagger that would? Ok thanks. My question is = If my gunsmith can build a rifle action out of a block of steel. Why cant we build a 1 shot crimper? Would people that trap not but 1 ? It could cost me more than 500 bucks to build? Wouldnt it pay for itself in time? I seriously want to have one built
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Would it be possible to add a plate onto the side or sides of the crimper jaws? File or grind the plate to match the crimp slots? My quess is yes ! What if you took the crimping piece off the tool then had a machinest double it? Just make a bigger copy ? Im not look to sell it. Not really trying to rip off someone’s else design Just make a better one
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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It could be that doing two compressions with one pull might not allow for elongation of the ferrule. But then again I've seen professionally done crimps on other cabled gear that looked to be either a one shot crimp or done by perfectionist who could do duplicator work. Has to be a way to do 1 crimp. Just think of all the time it would save ! LoL!
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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I use a bench mounted swagger I do 3 squeeze pulls one right one left then the middle I believe it gives me the best hold that way, you will notice the ferrule shifts material around when you crush it so use that to your advantage then. Your real issue might be wrestling with that hand crimper around the right tool for the job makes all the difference you’ll see.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Try menards brand cable cutters. Not expensive and guaranteed for life I take one back at least ounce ayear cuzz i just cut and run alot of times Will give it a look. Like the tough of = cut and run. After May 8 or so its going to be = back to back jobs for me all year till Oct.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Felco 7 cutters came in today from EBay. Their great!!!! Cut like butter. No effort like the other cheap cutters I have LOL! Love my felco cutters too Is the hammer your new 1 crimp tool? Lol
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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ST, You could save some $$ by using 2" fender washers and 30 penny nails instead of WolfFangs. Is that like a = Pogo anchor???
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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ST, You could save some $$ by using 2" fender washers and 30 penny nails instead of WolfFangs. Is that like a = Pogo anchor??? Yes...easy to make. In your clay soils a 1.5" washer will hold anything.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Interesting. Pre drill a 1 inch hole and it still work? I don't pre-drill but that would make it easier. I make my drivers out of hardened 5/8" hex-shaped rebar. I cut the end slots with my chop saw.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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I buy the washers and nails in bulk. Last batch of supplies I bought (about a year ago) I could make them for about 11 cent each including the 15" of 3/32" cable.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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I would like a picture of one Any one use them In frozen ground? Would the J hook make It harder to drive?
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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HIT Brand Wire Rope Cutters are about 1/2 the price of Felco Cutters and work just a well IMO. But don't just take my word for it. HIT is the brand that Newt Sterling uses and he cuts plenty of cable. I got my HIT Cutters from Newt. I have a pair at the bench and another pair in the beaver snare bag.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Beav, Ive used the pogos in hard soils and the jhook doesnt cause any problems......but...
....I started out using #6 jhooks and noticed where the heads were stressing the washer and appeared to be close to pulling thru the hole on some of the cable stakes. I noticed this by chance when I pulled a couple up just to inspect em. I intend these as one time use and cut cable when pulling. Repeated use will cause problems.
I then went to 20 penny nails (same issue), then 30 penny nails (much larger head) and problem solved.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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ST, Just checked pricing on all components for 2" pogos with 30 penny nails. Will cost closer to $1 each now, including aluminum ferrules and cable.
You are better off with the Wolf Fangs....about 75 cent each with cost of cable and ferrules added in.
Looks like I will be Wolf Fanging it very soon.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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OK for those who make Wolf Fangs = Have some questions? FNT make the best Wolf Fangs?? I found a cheaper Wolf Fang bought 100s of them BUT they dont fix my driver. Had to open up driver. Also = 3/32 ferrules? Im using a hand crimp now. Did 100 the other day. Plus 100 or so to day. Looked at benchrest model? Recomendations? The Original 'wolf fang' is the HIGH DESERT SPEAR sold by O'Gorman Enterprises
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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OK for those who make Wolf Fangs = Have some questions? FNT make the best Wolf Fangs?? I found a cheaper Wolf Fang bought 100s of them BUT they dont fix my driver. Had to open up driver. Also = 3/32 ferrules? Im using a hand crimp now. Did 100 the other day. Plus 100 or so to day. Looked at benchrest model? Recomendations? The Original 'wolf fang' is the HIGH DESERT SPEAR sold by O'Gorman Enterprises
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Why not just put your furrels on an anvil and hit them with a hammer?
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Has O'Gorman stopped selling them ? Yes. Not in last 2 catalogs Was told by Ogorman’s student. = a guy wanted to buy rights on = High Dessert Spear. But I never heard back from that guy. SO I guess no more High Dessert Spear ???
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Felco 7 cutters came in today from EBay. Their great!!!! Cut like butter. No effort like the other cheap cutters I have LOL! My Dad bought my pair of Felco Cutters for me on my birthday when I turned 15. I'm 40 and they are still going strong too. I use them every year on the line and they have put up with a lot of abuse. You definitely get what you pay for!
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Yes, the Felco cutters easily cut 1/8” cable. Please order me a new pair too. Lost mine, using the lousy backup.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Here’s some more pics.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Still can't figure it out lol, The brand is national telephone supply from Cleveland Ohio. It does a good job with one crimp. I use the (Q) and it works like a charm.
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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Do Wolffangs hold well in really sandy soil ? If so I might buy some Also are they single use or is it possible to reuse them?
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Re: Wolf Fang ?
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You can cross stake with them In sandy conditions..
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