Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: TEJAS]
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04/21/22 06:16 PM
04/21/22 06:16 PM
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Flat set scent post toy set blind set dirt hole
Most of my sets are some variation of a flat set. My scent post sets, I don't call scent posts, but a pee post or gland lure and urine. The post is usually something natural, whether a small bush, old stump, rock, snow hump, or simply a pile of coyote, wolf, or dog crap with urine shot on it and possibly gland lure. The only "toy" sets I make are using a bone, most often a t-bone as a attractor and backing. Everything except a pee post I generally call a flat set, and pee posts and variations of flat sets make up at least 80% of my sets. Blind sets I only make in the snow, where they can be very effective, have a good chance of picking up a wary old canine. Dirt holes are something I just don't make that often. I throw one in now and then as a changeup, and they catch stuff, I just figure almost everything I can catch in a dirthole I can catch in a flat set and they are more likely to be wary of a dirthole. Also I'm often trapping in frozen ground where digging is a pain, or in rocks, or in snow. So it is easier to make a flat set or pee post.
Caught a pair of adult coyotes today, and the male was about as big as I've come across here. He was caught in a flat set/scent post with a pile of coyote crap (some old and already there, added to with a turd squeezed out of a coyote caught the day I made the set) with gland lure and urine. The female was caught 50 yards away in a flat set with a cowpie backing and some Violater 7 under it.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: TEJAS]
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04/23/22 07:58 AM
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trappergbus
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I have a short list LOL, Flat sets Blind sets
Scent posts are just a variation of the flat set determined by the scent I use. Some with backings some without. Grab and dies and toys for some. Variation is key. The possibilities are endless.
Last edited by trappergbus; 04/23/22 07:59 AM.
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: TEJAS]
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04/24/22 01:28 PM
04/24/22 01:28 PM
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I have a short list:
Flat sets Blind sets
Variation is key. The possibilities are endless. You Betcha' G !For me, the flat and blind set is without a doubt the most deadly on adult coyotes. I’ll go out on a limb and say that a good percentage of trappers don't venture far past the hole set when it comes to Wile E. Learning how to be more effective with a variety of looks as well as knowing when to make a change or adjustment will boost any trapper’s numbers on the line. It is all about keeping your population of coyotes guessing. Visual variation is just one of many effective ways to accomplish that task.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: TEJAS]
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04/26/22 07:05 PM
04/26/22 07:05 PM
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Here’s a set of sheds that were picked up recently. A lot of points were broken off during the rut. One main beam measured over 29 inches.The rack will tape out well over 200. Those are a bunch of good reasons for killing every coyote I can. Some folks say you can’t eat the antlers. It’s a good thing blackstrap comes with them. That's just one more reason to trap Wile E.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: TEJAS]
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04/27/22 07:38 AM
04/27/22 07:38 AM
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trappergbus
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One dirt hole variation that works for the wise guys for me is a shallow trench deal with a prize in the bottom. I make it look like were a fox or a coyote dug up a mouse or vole.
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
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04/28/22 01:44 PM
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Good morning guys, Tejas I’m going to throw you a curveball today...considering that you and most others use a version of a flat set for adults...basically no holes used, I can only theorize that a hole set might just be your answer for a change up to hit the predators with next season. What say you? Considering that coyotes are born in a series of holes, some their prey that they hunt are born in holes, etc...I just can’t see where a version of a hole set wouldn’t be effective even on the wised up adults...SOME OF THE TIME. Now an olfactory attractor doesn’t have to be used at the set per say but there are a variety of ways to incorporate holes into catching even the older adults. Just my take on this topic
I see where you are going with this. MChewk. I agree that what’s old could once again be new. When you take into consideration the versatility and effectiveness of the flat set it’s hard to go back to punching holes. When you compare the pros and cons of the two I can’t help but wonder why trappers don’t use more flats. I will give your suggestion an honest try next year after the pressure has been on for a while.
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Re: COYOTE CARNAGE – SOUTH TEXAS BRUSH COUNTRY
[Re: TEJAS]
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04/28/22 05:21 PM
04/28/22 05:21 PM
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trappergbus
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My worst producing hole set is the standard open pattern type with one hole. Short trench set with the trap blended and a pile of dirt to the upwind side is the best. Sorta like Seldom's disco set. But is it worth the extra time to dig or drill a hole or trench? Another is an elevated poke hole in a clump of grass or a stump. I know what your sayin Mike but this is lake effect country, I seldom get 2 days without rain or snow.
Last edited by trappergbus; 04/28/22 05:25 PM.
Common sense catches alot of fur.. Pay homage to all you harvest..
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