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Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver #7574756
05/01/22 11:53 PM
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Check them out let me know what you think

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Last edited by Ken Smith; 05/01/22 11:53 PM.

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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574840
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I put it on Trappers Report. You can send this link around to people. And you have an advertisement at the top too so they can just click on that link and it will take you to facebook page.

You can make your own (with your own advertisement) any time. Just click on post at the top.

https://www.trappersreport.com/story/Two-videos-on-Catching-trap-Shy-Beaver--video


Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574877
05/02/22 08:16 AM
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Good quality video!


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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574916
05/02/22 09:10 AM
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I’m not going to say anything bad a bout Kendals beaver trap , if they are made like his coyote traps they are a tank. I should point out that I’m not a fan of the Montana dog-less , but If your going to blame the trap for a poorly caught beaver at least blame it for not having pan tension. As I’m pretty sure there is nothing wrong with the lockup of the Montana.

Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574923
05/02/22 09:32 AM
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I haven't had any experience with the Montana nor with the KO Beaver Extreme. I have heard a lot of good things about the KO trap. I'm thinking the reason the beaver's foot slides to the corner of the Montana is because it isn't center swiveled like the KO beaver trap is.

Those wised-up beavers can be quite the challenge, and this fella looks to be up for the challenges they present.



Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574933
05/02/22 09:57 AM
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A fresh piece of poplar /Aspen …with no lure…will take the smartest beaver out there


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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Nessmuck] #7574935
05/02/22 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
A fresh piece of poplar /Aspen …with no lure…will take the smartest beaver out there


Perhaps that's so up north.



Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Nessmuck] #7574944
05/02/22 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
A fresh piece of poplar /Aspen …with no lure…will take the smartest beaver out there

Not in south Georgia.


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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574948
05/02/22 10:27 AM
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I’m a sponge, what does work in the south ?

Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Golf ball] #7574953
05/02/22 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Golf ball
I’m a sponge, what does work in the south ?


It depends on the beaver, and what the beaver has experienced that lead to it's education.

A dab of sac oil on the bank where you made a small slick spot guarded with a foothold. Most educated beavers down here know more about a body grip than the average trapper, and they avoid them like the plague.

I catch a lot of them in blind sets using footholds. Sometimes snares will work, but I've found that some of those wise old buggers (usually females) will also avoid snares. I've had some that would shy away from anything visible that was added to their environment that wasn't there the day before.



Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574954
05/02/22 10:36 AM
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Had a beaver I needed to catch at an apple orchard. Apple trees and beaver are a bad combo. This pond is used for irrigation. I am no great beaver trapper but I suspect this one would have all of us frustrated. Pulled in one morning about dawn and seen her sitting on the bank about 200 yards away. She didnt know what a 22-250 was when I stuck it out my pickup window. A truly trap wise beaver is a real pain when you absolutely must kill it.


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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: nyhuntfish] #7574956
05/02/22 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by nyhuntfish
I put it on Trappers Report. You can send this link around to people. And you have an advertisement at the top too so they can just click on that link and it will take you to facebook page.

You can make your own (with your own advertisement) any time. Just click on post at the top.

https://www.trappersreport.com/story/Two-videos-on-Catching-trap-Shy-Beaver--video


Wow thank you I'll check it out!


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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574968
05/02/22 11:07 AM
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Thanks MtMan

Golf ball, you might be right. The pan tension becomes less and less as the springs wear out. These Montana's are around 4 years old. I have some KOs I bought in 2019 and a dozen I got recently and they seem to hold up very well. Can't say enough good about the traps.
And Paul's right the chain not being centered mixed with the waning pan tension of the springs definitely cause issues with a catch. I can say that I've had more toes in the Montana's than I every had in any trap and I've never had a toe in a KO. Doesn't mean it won't happen but the stats are starting to build up in my mind after a few years. I plan to modify the Montana's up a bit and see if I can bring the catch percentage of the trap up a bit

Paul thanks for the good will I appreciate your comment.

Nessmuck I believe that is true up north as other have said. In Oklahoma usually the snares pick up the set-shy beaver, but as Paul said this was a wised up female and she had been dodging my snares for two weeks. I set the snares for that beaver, but in the end some Woodchipper on location with no guiding did the trick. Same a s the first video above all but the lure. Know where their at, and make a set that doesn't look like a set and wahlah

Thanks again folks. I working on a video on catching that set-shy female's pups. I'll share once I see some results and get it up.


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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574969
05/02/22 11:08 AM
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What Paul said

I pull out all sets sometimes couple weeks.

Go back in ....get in the water 150-200 yds. Away from the beav ares. Walk in the water only not touching shore

Make 2 sets for Blackfoot catch .using dive pole 10" double staked under water near bank. I also add a 6' dbl ended cable to the bank side slide pole for another underwater bank connection..

Using rubber gloves....usually bemacs i use a stick to add sac oil (from a previously caught family member) to the bank. Above trap. 2nd set similar 12 to 20' away same thing nothing on the bank Xcept 4 or 5 drops birch oil

99.999% time I nail the last beaver.

Hardest part sometimes is finally admitting you need to stop , pull out and wait.


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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574972
05/02/22 11:09 AM
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Agree with Paul on the single drop of sac oil being very effective on southern beaver. For natural food used at a set, I use a green tulip poplar stick about thumb size with the bark scraped off of 3" or 4" down to the white wood. The scrapping is done after the stick is placed and gives eye appeal as well as the odor appeal. If no tulip poplar is handy, use whatever wood variety they are feeding on in the area.


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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: QuietButDeadly] #7574987
05/02/22 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by QuietButDeadly
Agree with Paul on the single drop of sac oil being very effective on southern beaver. For natural food used at a set, I use a green tulip poplar stick about thumb size with the bark scraped off of 3" or 4" down to the white wood. The scrapping is done after the stick is placed and gives eye appeal as well as the odor appeal. If no tulip poplar is handy, use whatever wood variety they are feeding on in the area.


I haven't tried the tulip poplar, mainly because I didn't see much of it in my area. I like using a piece of debarked maple for eye appeal. The reason I like maple is because it will remain white for quite a while. Whereas sweet gum and many other woods will turn dark and look old quickly.



Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Paul Dobbins] #7574993
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Originally Posted by Paul Dobbins
Originally Posted by Golf ball
I’m a sponge, what does work in the south ?


It depends on the beaver, and what the beaver has experienced that lead to it's education.

A dab of sac oil on the bank where you made a small slick spot guarded with a foothold. Most educated beavers down here know more about a body grip than the average trapper, and they avoid them like the plague.

I catch a lot of them in blind sets using footholds. Sometimes snares will work, but I've found that some of those wise old buggers (usually females) will also avoid snares. I've had some that would shy away from anything visible that was added to their environment that wasn't there the day before.

This^^^ is spot on. I do the exact same things. I have to go with nothing visible above the waterline....that the beaver didnt leave behind. That includes any part of a BG, a snare, or even a shallow foothold. Lures, other than sac oil, are useless.


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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7574996
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Have Yinz tried this other Magical lure....as a change up....Bob Wilson Green Beaver lure...smells like Hi-Karate ..and drives them nuts


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Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Nessmuck] #7574997
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Originally Posted by Nessmuck
Have Yinz tried this other Magical lure....as a change up....Bob Wilson Green Beaver lure...smells like Hi-Karate ..and drives them nuts


Yes I have. I know it's a good lure, but it didn't work for me down here. Dad sent me a pint of it years ago saying I needed to try it. I did, and used almost half of it without catching a beaver on it. I tested it with no eye appeal, just some on a stick in front of a trap. Like I said, I know it's a good lure, it just didn't work for me down here.



Re: Couple videos on catching trapshy beaver [Re: Ken Smith] #7575000
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When I've had a body grip shy beaver I almost always stopped using castor at a set and body grips. I never had much luck with snares either. I had the most success using sac oil or a single piece of poplar with a CDR7.5 with no fencing of any kind. If the water is clear, I always camouflage the trap with grass or anything similar.


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