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Small bison powder horn update #7580825
05/09/22 08:19 PM
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Finally got back to this horn. I boil the base of the horn for ten minutes or so, until I can squeeze it with my hand. Then I smear wood glue on the base plug and tap it lightly into the horn. This seats it well and usually seals it up tight. I predrilled a couple holes for small nails to hold the base in place until the glue dries. Next up is shaping the base, final scraping and installing the pins.

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Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: k snow] #7580869
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Have you tried a hose clamp, or zip tie? Just tryin to think outside the box, could be a drying issue too I spose.


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Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: k snow] #7580881
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The pins are just to keep the wood from popping out as everything dries. Just takes a minute to put them in. They don't hold the horn tight to the wood at all.

Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: k snow] #7580901
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Is the plug tapered, or straight walled?

Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: Marty B] #7580960
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Originally Posted by Marty B
Is the plug tapered, or straight walled?

Yes, wondering too


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Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: k snow] #7580979
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Wood glue isn't waterproof so why not use an apoxy? I'm presuming you'll use wood or brass plugs to pin the holes?


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Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: 20scout] #7581061
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Originally Posted by 20scout
Wood glue isn't waterproof so why not use an apoxy? I'm presuming you'll use wood or brass plugs to pin the holes?


I use titebond 3 wood glue, very water resistant. I haven't had any issues with my horns in wet weather.

I either carve hickory pins or use brass tacks for the final pins.

Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: 330-Trapper] #7581062
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Originally Posted by 330-Trapper
Originally Posted by Marty B
Is the plug tapered, or straight walled?

Yes, wondering too


Yes, tapered and shaped to fit the horn.

Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: k snow] #7581130
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Very cool! I've got a bison horn sheath laying around that I've thought about making either a powder horn or an open-reed coyote call with someday. Do you have plans on what you'll use as for a stopper? I think the traditional stopper plug was a violin key, if my memory serves me right. Keep us posted on progress!!


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Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: DakotaBoy] #7581134
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Originally Posted by DakotaBoy
Very cool! I've got a bison horn sheath laying around that I've thought about making either a powder horn or an open-reed coyote call with someday. Do you have plans on what you'll use as for a stopper? I think the traditional stopper plug was a violin key, if my memory serves me right. Keep us posted on progress!!


Powder horns are fun projects that don't take much time, but if you have patience, even a beginner can make a fine horn.

Fiddle pegs became popular as stoppers in the 19th and 20th centuries. Earlier plugs were often just a piece of stick carved to fit. I usually whittle one out of a piece of butternut wood.

Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: k snow] #7581800
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looking good

Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: k snow] #7581860
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A friend called a few days back he had gone to a flea market with his wife this last Sunday. A fella was selling some steer and Bison horns. He picked me up a few for future projects. Looking forward to seeing what size and condition they may be in. An enjoyable project to do when a fella is in the mood.

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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
A friend called a few days back he had gone to a flea market with his wife this last Sunday. A fella was selling some steer and Bison horns. He picked me up a few for future projects. Looking forward to seeing what size and condition they may be in. An enjoyable project to do when a fella is in the mood.


Thats cool. Hopefully he has an eye for good horns.

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Originally Posted by Bob Jameson
A friend called a few days back he had gone to a flea market with his wife this last Sunday. A fella was selling some steer and Bison horns. He picked me up a few for future projects. Looking forward to seeing what size and condition they may be in. An enjoyable project to do when a fella is in the mood.

Amen to that!


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I have had a horn for some time. One of these days I want to make it into a powder horn. Your post is encouraging, Thanks

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Nice looking horn.

Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: Cascade Gina] #7581958
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Originally Posted by Cascade Gina
I have had a horn for some time. One of these days I want to make it into a powder horn. Your post is encouraging, Thanks


If you can get a copy of it, Scott and Cathy Sibley's book, Recreating the 18th Century Powder Horn is excellent. Step by step, every single detail is covered.

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Thanks, I found the book on Track of the Wolf and it is on its way. Looking forward to getting it and putting the information to work. Thanks again smile

Re: Small bison powder horn update [Re: k snow] #7582869
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Any tips on how to get the shell off the horn? I have a few I want to work with but the "core" is still in them.

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Originally Posted by CoonsBane
Any tips on how to get the shell off the horn? I have a few I want to work with but the "core" is still in them.


Boil. It also may be on there for good!

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