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Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: WhiteCliffs] #7591656 05/26/22 08:49 AM 05/26/22 08:49 AM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,433 Akron, Ohio bass10 trapper
bass10 trapper Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,433 Akron, Ohio	Originally Posted by WhiteCliffs I understand TSS in a 20 ga and .410. If you are using it in a 12 ga it is because you are wanting to extend the range. Plenty of non TSS 12 ga loads good for turkey at 40 yards plus. If you are shooting turkeys over 50 yards, you are missing the point of turkey hunting - in my opinion - of course. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. At 56 I’ve killed my share of turkeys, for the next 5 years if I shoot 10 birds at 53 yards each I can assure you my experience will still be awesome! "The more people I meet the more I love my dog!"

Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: bass10] #7591667 05/26/22 09:07 AM 05/26/22 09:07 AM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,142 NC - Here there and everywhere C coondagger2 "Brat"
coondagger2 "Brat" C Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,142 NC - Here there and everywhere	Originally Posted by bass10 You really don’t think a .410 is more lethal than a 12 gauge do you? I'm getting tired of having to explain this one. I wish I could make it a sticky at the top. 12 ga 3.5" lead shot #5 is a standard turkey load that myself and others have killed a pile of turkeys with. A 2oz load has 340 pellets 410 3" 1 oz of TSS #9 will kill at a further distance than lead #5. It is ballistically equivalent to lead #4 due to its much higher density. 1 oz of tss 9's has 365 pellets. So yes, my 410 shooting 9 shot tss will penetrate further and have more pellets on target than a 12 ga shooting 3.5" lead shot It is not a debate. It is simple shotshell ballistics Gotta live up to the nickname...

Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: coondagger2] #7591710 05/26/22 09:51 AM 05/26/22 09:51 AM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,433 Akron, Ohio bass10 trapper
bass10 trapper Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,433 Akron, Ohio	Originally Posted by coondagger2 Originally Posted by bass10 You really don’t think a .410 is more lethal than a 12 gauge do you? I'm getting tired of having to explain this one. I wish I could make it a sticky at the top. 12 ga 3.5" lead shot #5 is a standard turkey load that myself and others have killed a pile of turkeys with. A 2oz load has 340 pellets 410 3" 1 oz of TSS #9 will kill at a further distance than lead #5. It is ballistically equivalent to lead #4 due to its much higher density. 1 oz of tss 9's has 365 pellets. So yes, my 410 shooting 9 shot tss will penetrate further and have more pellets on target than a 12 ga shooting 3.5" lead shot It is not a debate. It is simple shotshell ballistics Well I have my setup that I am not changing anytime soon, and its a 12 gauge, 3.5" with TSS. So I will just take your word for it because I don't care enough to research it. "The more people I meet the more I love my dog!"

Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: bass10] #7591714 05/26/22 09:59 AM 05/26/22 09:59 AM
Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,142 NC - Here there and everywhere C coondagger2 "Brat"
coondagger2 "Brat" C Joined: Dec 2012 Posts: 2,142 NC - Here there and everywhere	Originally Posted by bass10 Well I have my setup that I am not changing anytime soon, and its a 12 gauge, 3.5" with TSS. So I will just take your word for it because I don't care enough to research it. I was talking lead vs. tss. You will definitely have an advantage shooting 12ga tss vs. 410 tss I just think its unnecessary and is only needed in the small bores Gotta live up to the nickname...

Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: jbyrd63] #7591727 05/26/22 10:16 AM 05/26/22 10:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska G Gary Benson trapper
Gary Benson trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska	My ex-wife's cousin killed her husband with a .410 so yes they're lethal enough alright. Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: Gary Benson] #7591865 05/26/22 01:35 PM 05/26/22 01:35 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,433 Akron, Ohio bass10 trapper
bass10 trapper Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,433 Akron, Ohio	Originally Posted by Gary Benson My ex-wife's cousin killed her husband with a .410 so yes they're lethal enough alright. Yeh but if was past 50 yards did she get the true experience? "The more people I meet the more I love my dog!"

Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: jbyrd63] #7591883 05/26/22 02:05 PM 05/26/22 02:05 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska G Gary Benson trapper
Gary Benson trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska	Nope......pretty sure it wasn't from 50 yards. Or 51 even. What's odd is that she got let off the hook by a hung jury. Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: jbyrd63] #7591911 05/26/22 03:46 PM 05/26/22 03:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 7,392 western mn B bucksnbears trapper
bucksnbears trapper B Joined: Oct 2009 Posts: 7,392 western mn	I'm still wondering what made this "a Serious " Question. Sounds like just an ordinary one swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.

Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: jbyrd63] #7591924 05/26/22 04:30 PM 05/26/22 04:30 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska G Gary Benson trapper
Gary Benson trapper G Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 21,716 Sandhills Nebraska	Cause and effect? Life ain't supposed to be easy.

Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: coondagger2] #7591933 05/26/22 05:00 PM 05/26/22 05:00 PM
Joined: May 2018 Posts: 10,930 SW Georgia W Wanna Be trapper
Wanna Be trapper W Joined: May 2018 Posts: 10,930 SW Georgia	Originally Posted by coondagger2 Originally Posted by bass10 Well I have my setup that I am not changing anytime soon, and its a 12 gauge, 3.5" with TSS. So I will just take your word for it because I don't care enough to research it. I was talking lead vs. tss. You will definitely have an advantage shooting 12ga tss vs. 410 tss I just think its unnecessary and is only needed in the small bores Some will never understand. But yet the manufacturers realized they could make a mint off those that know no better…and they are, lol. It’s like buying a .375 H&H Magnum for Whitetails, lol. Last edited by Wanna Be; 05/26/22 05:04 PM.

Re: Serious question for TSS users [Re: jbyrd63] #7591947 05/26/22 05:26 PM 05/26/22 05:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2020 Posts: 8,971 Indiana P Providence Farm trapper
Providence Farm trapper P Joined: Feb 2020 Posts: 8,971 Indiana	I guess I'm just not into turkeys enough. I don't hunt t hem because I think a 24$ tag is to high. I take the kids and they kill then just fin with 20g, 3" #5s and a single shot or 870 with modified choke and they are expensive enough for me. If I hit. Loto maybe I would experiment with it. Sounds like it works great and I could see more pellets being a really nice advantage. Last edited by Providence Farm; 05/26/22 05:26 PM.

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