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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: DaveP] #7591192
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Originally Posted by DaveP
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Gun info was just released on Fox news. The nut bought an AR on may 17 and another one on may 20th. 375 rounds of ammo day after that .One was found inside the truck another he used to kill the precious children. Guy shot his granny that used to work at the school. The door he went thru was unlocked. He went inside ONE classroom and shot everyone in there. Some are still battling for their lives in the hospital. Apparently he knew how to get inside.

I'm not going to poke the bear on here with the AR issue but the gun unfortunately did what it was designed to do. Yes anything can become a weapon of death but somethings are capable of killing in a shorter time span than others......


The AR platform is the Kentucky rifle of it's time.
Being from KY, you should know that.

Almost 100 years ago, a nut killed 38 elementary school children in Michigan.
Bath school massacre.

It ain't the tool.used, it's the nut doing the killing.
He killed even quicker w/out a firearm

God bless their little souls.


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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7591193
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JByrd must never seen My Lai massacre photos that were in Life magazine when I was a kid. All shot with .223 ball ammo. The dead were very recognizable so not buying "ID 'ed only through DNA"

500 million firearms in the USA, probably 50 or more AR style platforms. Hundreds and hundreds of million "assault" weapons world wide. Even if ARs were banned now and all "turned in", there would still be millions out there, plus the global market. The cost might deter some young guy from buying one (by the way where did this 18 year come up with the cash to buy 2 such rifles in short order...?) but if a person was determined to get one...

What happens when a shooter shows up with a SAW or an old M-60 from some 3rd world place, ban machine guns from the military...??


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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: wildflights] #7591194
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Originally Posted by wildflights

This is the alleged shooter. Likely why the media is silent on calling out and highlighting the perp.
He's one of their "protected" mental disorder cases.[Linked Image]

Future leftist had he lived. Now a sinner in the hands of an angry God.

Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7591199
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There are "programmable" people out there. If you don't think so, the Clowns in Action and others across the globe have been working on it since the 1950s. Do you think all that research didn't result in some sort of workable human "bot"...?

I personally believe that there are ways to "open the doors" to pure evil that gets set in these types of people. The being doing such killing may still be in human form but its being fully guided by a demon. Satan always wants the blood sacrifice of innocents. Its been that way all along, certainly from the days of Moloch forward....

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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7591218
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When things commit atrocities like this they do not desreve to be referred to as humans,imo. They are just a thing or an it as far as i'm concerned. The quicker this foolishness is ended about Rights ,the better for the sane world.
Being from Canada you know we have very restricted gun rights and getting lesser by the day. I always questioned why people needed magazines which hold so many bullets and I still do, however
--What I can say in support of your 2nd is DO NOT GIVE UP A SINGLE THING. Make then work for any gain. Once they get a toe in the door watch out. I hope your bumpstock gesture isn't that crack in the door.

Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: warrior] #7591224
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Originally Posted by warrior
Nah, he was to busy trying to recover from recoil.

LOL,,mine was the Winchester Model 12 in 16 gauge.Run some slugs through that if you want to see recoil.Still have it,,or I should say one of my sons has it.


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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: grampy] #7591229
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Originally Posted by grampy
I always questioned why people needed magazines which hold so many bullets and I still do, however
--What I can say in support of your 2nd is DO NOT GIVE UP A SINGLE THING.

I was never a fan of black rifles, never thought I'd own one until just over a year ago. I see a government completely out of control and taking aim at me for the crime of being patriotic. I now own a black rifle along with several 30 round magazines and several hundred rounds of ammo. It's not deer I intend to fend off.

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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: wildflights] #7591235
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Originally Posted by wildflights

This is the alleged shooter. Likely why the media is silent on calling out and highlighting the perp.
He's one of their "protected" mental disorder cases.[Linked Image]

Freak ! At least its dead now.


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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: ~ADC~] #7591237
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Originally Posted by ~ADC~
jbyrd, I've always tried to give you the benefit of the doubt when so many here say or imply you are an idiot. I'll no longer make that mistake. ANYONE who gives the weapon ANY level of responsibility in this, or any shooting,,, ... wow. How ignorant. mad



You nailed it Jayme.


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Prayers for the innocent children and the grief stricken families.


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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7591245
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x2 Tony. That is way classier than my thoughts right now

Last edited by Leftlane; 05/25/22 06:56 PM. Reason: b/c i accidently used a girly font LOL

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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: Leftlane] #7591252
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Originally Posted by Leftlane
x2 Tony. That is way classier than my thoughts right now

I have those same thoughts right now also Lefty.


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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7591258
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Jbyrd has finally revealed the real himself.
I PREDICTED IT!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL


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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: NonPCfed] #7591260
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Originally Posted by NonPCfed
JByrd must never seen My Lai massacre photos that were in Life magazine when I was a kid. All shot with .223 ball ammo. The dead were very recognizable so not buying "ID 'ed only through DNA"

500 million firearms in the USA, probably 50 or more AR style platforms. Hundreds and hundreds of million "assault" weapons world wide. Even if ARs were banned now and all "turned in", there would still be millions out there, plus the global market. The cost might deter some young guy from buying one (by the way where did this 18 year come up with the cash to buy 2 such rifles in short order...?) but if a person was determined to get one...

What happens when a shooter shows up with a SAW or an old M-60 from some 3rd world place, ban machine guns from the military...??

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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: jbyrd63] #7591287
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
By design most of my rifles hold 4 rounds . My henry 22 holds 16 in the tube. Hand guns 15-17 round clips. Don't own an AR never have never will. I hunt any and everything I want to with a bolt gun.

Jump up and pump your chest . I don't give a rats behind who owns what or how many . But all the AR's ever made aren't worth one child's life. Could he have done the same carnage with another weapon ? You bet . But the question ANY parent or clear thinking adult must ask. WOULD he have done this if he hadn't had the knowledge of what the weapon was capable of doing? We will never know...THATS more of the issue than gun control stopping at these style of weapons.
Most criminals won't undertake a crime if they don't have the equipment they think they need to pull it off. How many mass shooters show up with a 4 shot bolt gun? EVERY one of the shooters in this lifetime have used something with a high capacity or rapid reload weapon. So don't start that crap . Just google the AR and who and what it was designed for ? That's where the argument looses traction. Heck a hatchet can kill but none of the mass killings in the US where done with one.


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So They are showing pics on TV about the School shooting.
Looks like all hispanics involved- the cops,the shooter and the victims?


Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by wildflights

This is the alleged shooter. Likely why the media is silent on calling out and highlighting the perp.
He's one of their "protected" mental disorder cases.[Linked Image]

Freak ! At least its dead now.



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Re: Ar was the weapon ! [Re: FairbanksLS] #7591296
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Originally Posted by white dog
Originally Posted by wy.wolfer
The issue is more about mental illness than about guns. That's what needs to be addressed to combat these types of events, and my opinion is that they will continue until something is done to address mental health in America first.


As someone who has to deal with mental illness in his family it is virtually impossible to get help for someone over the age of 18 that doesn’t want that help. How do you propose to change that? I’m all ears.


I agree with wolfer. White dog I have no idea and I wonder how other countries deal with it?


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Until we accept the freaks proclivities as normal, there can be no peace.

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I do not understand why we focus so much on what weapon was used for this terrible tragedy? The person that did this is the problem. Would it not be that big of a deal had he not used an AR? Unfortunately you can't stop crazy and when you find that out it's to late. He could have done the same damage with most any semiauto gun. What we need to do is pray for the families that will have to live with this the rest of their lives an the children's life's that were cut short. Not argue over whether an AR is bad or good. God bless everyone involved and that is affected by this tragedy. I can not imagine getting that phone call.

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