Re: Custom rifle?
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What's everyone's thought on the new 6.8x51. Being a military round I'm assuming it will stick around. Ballistics sound like the 270 win but in short action. Will the our common actions handle the higher pressures? If they would I'd be intrested in some day pairing it with a 788 action. I'm a big fan of both the 270 win and the 788. I think the biggest problem will be bullet variety. Unless I'm wrong there wasn't much to pick from in the .277 caliber compared to .308, .284 and .264. Maybe with the new flavors of 270's that has changed.
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Re: Custom rifle?
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06/07/22 11:47 AM
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What's everyone's thought on the new 6.8x51. Being a military round I'm assuming it will stick around. Ballistics sound like the 270 win but in short action. Will the our common actions handle the higher pressures? If they would I'd be intrested in some day pairing it with a 788 action. I'm a big fan of both the 270 win and the 788. it is a hybrid case with a stainless steel head and it runs 80K psi I think in a civilian rifle you can already get the ballistics they are and more and in a bunch of packages just all with longer than 16 inch barrels so if your goal is near 270 ballistics in a 16 inch barrel sure but if you don't mind a little longer barrel you can get it all at more normal long action pressures in a 270 and probably not burn the barrel out near as fast , have plenty of case availability. and in normal times buy a box of ammo in every farm store , sporting good store and even some hardware stores, gas stations and bait shops.
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Re: Custom rifle?
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06/07/22 12:19 PM
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what is the planned use ?
I like to stop and think what is my use and if I am only thinking about that use what features do I want ?
build to the use
Be used for letting the air out of moose,elk and deer along with the odd coyote and rare wolf. I'd also like it to ring the steel across 880 yds. More or less planning on making it my do all. Ok so You want a accurate walk in hunting rifle? Moose Gun etc. 300wm will be better then a 26noz. Your new 300wm might be a shooter already, with some load development and testing? Some times we can get a factory rifle to shoot very well with the right ammo. If it wont shoot you can always True the action and Rebarrel it.
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Re: Custom rifle?
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06/07/22 12:46 PM
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I think the biggest problem will be bullet variety. Unless I'm wrong there wasn't much to pick from in the .277 caliber compared to .308, .284 and .264. Maybe with the new flavors of 270's that has changed. Norwestalta , on ammo seek right now there are .277 caliber bullets listed in 85,90,100,110,120,127,130,140,145,150,160, and 165 grains. Biggest animals I ever killed with my 270 were elk. 130 grain sierra boat tails. I have some nosler 160 grain partition but my rifle wasnt accurate enough to suit me with them. I think I would want to be less than 200 yards from a moose with it but I think it would work. I been shooting SST's in my 300 win mag. Will try some in my 270 some of these days, got a bunch of sierras loaded though right now. I know there are heavier bullets available than 165 but I did not see any just now.
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Re: Custom rifle?
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06/07/22 12:49 PM
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This is an example of how far forward I like a scope to fit me so you can see why mounting options are so important to me the back of the scope needs to almost be at the back of the trigger That is quite far forward. Holla. Almost pistol scope territory. I am fairly tall and my eye is just the normal 3.7 inches behind that scope the other option is add to the stock but that puts more weight out front , more to blow around and a longer package overall my actual length of pull is 14.5 inches I just learned to shoot guns that a come factory around 12.75 to 13 inches by moving the scope forward , with EGW it makes scope mounts with extended rails an easier option than extendingt he stock , but yes all my rifles look about like that scope even with the back of the trigger I do add some to the stocks on some shotguns to make them fit a little better
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Re: Custom rifle?
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06/07/22 01:25 PM
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What's everyone's thought on the new 6.8x51. Being a military round I'm assuming it will stick around. Ballistics sound like the 270 win but in short action. Will the our common actions handle the higher pressures? If they would I'd be intrested in some day pairing it with a 788 action. I'm a big fan of both the 270 win and the 788. it is a hybrid case with a stainless steel head and it runs 80K psi I think in a civilian rifle you can already get the ballistics they are and more and in a bunch of packages just all with longer than 16 inch barrels so if your goal is near 270 ballistics in a 16 inch barrel sure but if you don't mind a little longer barrel you can get it all at more normal long action pressures in a 270 and probably not burn the barrel out near as fast , have plenty of case availability. and in normal times buy a box of ammo in every farm store , sporting good store and even some hardware stores, gas stations and bait shops. I was thinking more of a 270 performance in a short action (im kind of a 788 guy). I mean most custom rigs are just bragging rights about having something cool anyway unless ur into bench rest type of shooting. Look at the OP. He's building a custom in a caliber that he already has and the gun he already has is probably more than capable and probably better (because or weight and length) for everything with the exception of off a bench at the range.
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Re: Custom rifle?
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06/07/22 01:45 PM
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Yep. I didnt get the alphabet right. Barnes TSX is what I was talking about.
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Re: Custom rifle?
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Yep. I didnt get the alphabet right. Barnes TSX is what I was talking about. Lol. Ya the are expensive but I've found they really anchor a animal when shot from near or far.
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Re: Custom rifle?
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06/07/22 01:58 PM
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Friend tipped me off about those TSX bullets and pressure. Need to look up barnes TSX data before you load them.
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Re: Custom rifle?
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Friend tipped me off about those TSX bullets and pressure. Need to look up barnes TSX data before you load them. Yep for sure. Pretty important to measure properly.
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Re: Custom rifle?
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it is a hybrid case with a stainless steel head and it runs 80K psi
I think in a civilian rifle you can already get the ballistics they are and more and in a bunch of packages just all with longer than 16 inch barrels
so if your goal is near 270 ballistics in a 16 inch barrel sure but if you don't mind a little longer barrel you can get it all at more normal long action pressures in a 270 and probably not burn the barrel out near as fast , have plenty of case availability. and in normal times buy a box of ammo in every farm store , sporting good store and even some hardware stores, gas stations and bait shops.
I was thinking more of a 270 performance in a short action (im kind of a 788 guy). I mean most custom rigs are just bragging rights about having something cool anyway unless ur into bench rest type of shooting. Look at the OP. He's building a custom in a caliber that he already has and the gun he already has is probably more than capable and probably better (because or weight and length) for everything with the exception of off a bench at the range. the civilian version of that is the 6.8 western a 270 in a short action , just at normal pressures with more available brass and ammo
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