Re: Cop charged with murder
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Arm chair, Monday morning QB'ing......
...a traffic stop for illegal plates = legal stop.
....no compliance to officer's request for DL and guy physically resists arrest = legal physical arrest attempt.
...if officer knew of outstanding warrant on the guy = more legal justification for arrest.
.....continues to physically resist arrest and grabs ahold of officer's weapon = use of deadly force authorized.
Officer should be acquitted. BS charging the officer.
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Re: Cop charged with murder
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Arm chair, Monday morning QB'ing......
...a traffic stop for illegal plates = legal stop.
....no compliance to officer's request for DL and guy physically resists arrest = legal physical arrest attempt.
...if officer knew of outstanding warrant on the guy = more legal justification for arrest.
.....continues to physically resist arrest and grabs ahold of officer's weapon = use of deadly force authorized.
Officer should be acquitted. BS charging the officer.
100% total agreement with your entire post. Being in Northern lower Michigan, this is political 100%, and this is the part of Michigan that has been talked about before. Liberal lower lower Michigan. We have members here that are just that, and post accordingly.
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Re: Cop charged with murder
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06/12/22 01:05 PM
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... should have used a catch pole... not as messy that away
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Re: Cop charged with murder
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06/12/22 03:12 PM
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Against my better judgement, I watched it again. At no point did I see an offensive move by the dead guy, At no point did I see where the cops life was in danger, At any time the cop could have stopped and walked away and diffused the situation. I am not taking sides, dont care, but anyone who thinks what this cop did is "OK", better not carp about the fbi in Michigan or justice departments over reach. "At no point did I see an offensive move by the dead guy." You would be correct. The offensive moves were before he was dead. And the thug could have stopped and diffused the situation like a law abiding person would.
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Re: Cop charged with murder
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Les, this is still America for the time being, We all have rights here. I will stand up for mine. You want to be a sheep, go ahead, thats your right. Couple of my hounds won trophies, me not so much. You wont use your phone when I make a citezens arrest either, lol, dont see how it could be possible, after resisting arrest, and no witnesses. Just saying.
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Re: Cop charged with murder
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06/12/22 03:59 PM
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100% total agreement with your entire post. Being in Northern lower Michigan, this is political 100%, and this is the part of Michigan that has been talked about before. Liberal lower lower Michigan. We have members here that are just that, and post accordingly.
Lower Michigan is not default liberal. Cities are liberal and rural is conservative like everywhere else. Government reliance is much more of a thing in the northern lower than down here.
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Re: Cop charged with murder
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06/12/22 04:05 PM
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Arm chair, Monday morning QB'ing......
...a traffic stop for illegal plates = legal stop.
....no compliance to officer's request for DL and guy physically resists arrest = legal physical arrest attempt.
...if officer knew of outstanding warrant on the guy = more legal justification for arrest.
.....continues to physically resist arrest and grabs ahold of officer's weapon = use of deadly force authorized.
Officer should be acquitted. BS charging the officer.
So its OK to put your hands on someone for plates? At that point, thats all it was. But I guess the poor guy was from the Congo, thats the way its done there.
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Re: Cop charged with murder
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Arm chair, Monday morning QB'ing......
...a traffic stop for illegal plates = legal stop.
....no compliance to officer's request for DL and guy physically resists arrest = legal physical arrest attempt.
...if officer knew of outstanding warrant on the guy = more legal justification for arrest.
.....continues to physically resist arrest and grabs ahold of officer's weapon = use of deadly force authorized.
Officer should be acquitted. BS charging the officer.
So its OK to put your hands on someone for plates? At that point, thats all it was. But I guess the poor guy was from the Congo, thats the way its done there. WOW You only see what you want to see ! PUBLIC EDUCATION IN THE 90'S ON !
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Re: Cop charged with murder
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06/12/22 04:45 PM
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Arm chair, Monday morning QB'ing......
...a traffic stop for illegal plates = legal stop.
....no compliance to officer's request for DL and guy physically resists arrest = legal physical arrest attempt.
...if officer knew of outstanding warrant on the guy = more legal justification for arrest.
.....continues to physically resist arrest and grabs ahold of officer's weapon = use of deadly force authorized.
Officer should be acquitted. BS charging the officer.
So its OK to put your hands on someone for plates? At that point, thats all it was. But I guess the poor guy was from the Congo, thats the way its done there. Yes....you can be arrested for a traffic violation. The guy began resisting...after failure to comply to the simple request to produce a DL...which he is required to have to drive. So, the perp turned it into hands on "for a traffic violation." And, we still dont know if the officer knew of the warrants. If he did, there is an even more solid reason for a physical arrest, as opposed to only a citation. And, unless there is no other reason to arrest a subject, an officer should never advise a perp he is being arrested on a warrant...until the cuffs are on. Especially with this guy that wasnt complying from the start. Diggerman, Unless you were an officer in the Congo you speak of...you'd get your a$$ kicked pretty quick on the streets of most an US city. Better keep your day job.
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Re: Cop charged with murder
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06/12/22 05:34 PM
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From this prospective, several things are went way wrong on both sides.
But short result, when the subject grabbed the officer's taser the subject signed his own punch card, period!
Did the subject need to be shot in the back of the head, would not have been my first choice; but, the subject would have been shot! Multiple times? Result would 'probably' have been the same as I don't see the subject stop resisting til he took his last breathe. This officer just saved some ammo.
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Re: Cop charged with murder
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Lots of law breakers, some violent or wanted, to be sure, would have an easy escape if when the law stops somebody they are ordered not to chase the criminal. Free escape boys, you'll just have to get your car back later after they tow it. Those mean white cops can't chase you and if they do they will be charged with a crime!
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